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post #1 of 75 (permalink) Old 11-29-2019, 06:27 PM Thread Starter
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What a bleak picture to relationships this forum brings....lol

Man, I guess it is just boredom that brought me to revisting this site. I guess being mostly isolated from people now makes me appreciate the crap I don't have to endure. Nearly every post has to do with cheating, scandals, lack of sex, crappy sex, kid drama, in-law drama, etc, etc, etc. What the hell is wrong with people anymore? Just stumbled into the one on the men's page where the guy decided he needed to hook up with his
"10" and destroy his family.....so fun.....

I think I am starting to see why so many choose to escape life. The internet age has been a HUGE detriment to social society. Now "options" are just a tap away, but I guess the local watering hole is probably always full of "opportunities". I can't even point the finger at one sex, because both do the same thing.

If you need a "one stop shop" to promote complete isolation, this is it! It's like not even worth it. Find "the one" and sooner or later she will run off with "the next one" and you are back on the market, writing checks for kids that can't be cashed. What is the "American Dream" anymore?

All I have learned so far is people, be it man or woman, associate (at least with me) out of want or need. Men want to associate so you can provide "wing support" or information to help them in some way. Women are looking for a "partner" to write checks, hold hands, and be "the guy" until the next comes along.

So what is it about humanity that makes people here want to stay in this circle of constant drama?

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Re: What a bleak picture to relationships this forum brings....lol

This is a marriage web site. Naturally, people who are troubled and in distress in their relationships are going to post here looking for advice/feedback.

Yes, people do associate with one another because that is wired into our DNA. People need to be in relationships in order to, well, RELATE. Sad but true, far too many are troubled. But people are flawed beings.

Men want "wing support" (whatever the hell THAT means) and "information" (also, whatever the hell THAT means) while women are seeking out men to "write checks" until the next sucker comes along.

Sounds like men have rather innocent needs while women are sniffing around for a paycheck and free ride, according to your outlook.

You certainly have a right to your opinion(s). Personally, I think you are one lonely, disconnected, messed up dude. But, as I generally say, it's your life and your choice(s).

I refuse to make anyone a priority in my life who considers me nothing more than an option.

You can't start the next chapter of your life if you keep re-reading the last one.
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"grabs the popcorn"

This thread is about to get good!
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Men want "wing support" (whatever the hell THAT means) and "information" (also, whatever the hell THAT means) while women are seeking out men to "write checks" until the next sucker comes along.

Sounds like men have rather innocent needs while women are sniffing around for a paycheck and free ride, according to your outlook.
"wing support" means "wing man", which means "act like we are friends while I survey the area for women..... As I mentioned, just as a perspective of myself, men typically only contact me when they need or want something. I carry a wealth of knowledge except for relationships so men tend to bother we with all their plumbing, electrical, auto, mechanical issues. I have got rid of most of them once I stopped the "freebie" hemorrhage.

No, I am not looking to demean women here, as many are truly independent and professional, but many that I have encountered stack up "opportunities" based on looks, then money, then status, THEN personality and quality. I have sat in on "girl chat" before. It is depressing. There is a LARGE group of women in my area that hover around the mentality (and I think many really do) that you work HARD to make yourself look appealing to men, so you can be taken in, where you don't have to work, just raise them kiddos and watch soaps, and jabber.

BUT, before people attack that, as I just mentioned, I know plenty that are hard working professional types. It is just that I have met a LARGE number of women that basically work for minimum wage but live like they are famous. Their basic play in life is to find someone to write the big checks for them. Hell, I damn near married one. I know all about gold diggers.

But men....Lets just say even my BEST friends are wired the same. "She is pretty, you should keep her"...... that is all that matters. So I am not saying only women are shallow.

But people still want to throw that ring on, like it means something. Vows could never mean less.....
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I’m glad I don’t have such a bleak outlook on the world. Most people here are in the **** of some kind or crawled out of a hole sometime back. That after all is what this place is mostly about. Each sex has their own gender junk to own but that news is as old as time itself. After all.... how boring would it be for every person here to say.... I love my perfect life and perfect wife.

People love drama...reality TV is a hit for a reason. Oh yeah I forgot to mention there is a lot of sex talk as well.... that stuff always sells.

I’m a man ...I like women. I like the way they talk, the way they walk, the way they swing their hips, and the way they paint their lips.

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Man, I guess it is just boredom that brought me to revisting this site.

Find "the one" and sooner or later she will run off with "the next one" and you are back on the market, writing checks for kids that can't be cashed.

Men want to associate so you can provide "wing support" or information to help them in some way. Women are looking for a "partner" to write checks, hold hands, and be "the guy" until the next comes along.

So what is it about humanity that makes people here want to stay in this circle of constant drama?
You are entitled to hold with this philosophy. And you are right that there are people here who are addicted to drama and misery. Why? I don't know. For me, life is too short to waste it on feeling miserable.

What "information" is it you believe men seek from women?

As far as people staying in "constant drama" just look at the political climate of this country. Everyone is either ranting about something they perceive as wrong, trying to get the goods on someone else (they think is wrong), or are perpetually offended by an offhand comment someone made that they considered sexist/racist/whatever. Troubling times, but this is the world in which we live.

You are a lonely man. You are an angry, hurt man. And you can sing, "I am a rock, I am an island" all you want, but it don't cut no ice. Like it or not, you are part of the human race. Unless your a misanthrope, you are stuck with the rest of us, flaws and all. Isolate all you want, but be aware you are living a life unrealized.

I refuse to make anyone a priority in my life who considers me nothing more than an option.

You can't start the next chapter of your life if you keep re-reading the last one.
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Meh. You sound just like the bitter angry people you are labeling in this forum and in society.

I mean everyone blames the internet, but all the same stuff was occurring just in a different medium.
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Agreed. You should stay away from people Bob.

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"wing support" means "wing man", which means "act like we are friends while I survey the area for women..... As I mentioned, just as a perspective of myself, men typically only contact me when they need or want something. I carry a wealth of knowledge except for relationships so men tend to bother we with all their plumbing, electrical, auto, mechanical issues. I have got rid of most of them once I stopped the "freebie" hemorrhage.

No, I am not looking to demean women here, as many are truly independent and professional, but many that I have encountered stack up "opportunities" based on looks, then money, then status, THEN personality and quality. I have sat in on "girl chat" before. It is depressing. There is a LARGE group of women in my area that hover around the mentality (and I think many really do) that you work HARD to make yourself look appealing to men, so you can be taken in, where you don't have to work, just raise them kiddos and watch soaps, and jabber.

BUT, before people attack that, as I just mentioned, I know plenty that are hard working professional types. It is just that I have met a LARGE number of women that basically work for minimum wage but live like they are famous. Their basic play in life is to find someone to write the big checks for them. Hell, I damn near married one. I know all about gold diggers.

But men....Lets just say even my BEST friends are wired the same. "She is pretty, you should keep her"...... that is all that matters. So I am not saying only women are shallow.

But people still want to throw that ring on, like it means something. Vows could never mean less.....
Yup, l also agree that you are narrow minded, seeking revenge on a society, you think has offered you a bum deal. Thank goodness because of a mentality such as your gives those who suffer, reason to seek help and not hold anyone accountable for their happiness.

But again as your return to this site, you know that we are there. And though you relay negativity you still get a say in the world. And get a response maybe to confirm your belief that the world is against you. It isn't even if you attempt to a rise out of those who think differently than you.

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I am not sure why the thread steered towards me. I was basically wondering how and why people still desire this "marriage/kids/spouse/etc/etc"? Statistics, threads on this site, and even one moderator, seem to indicate that this mentality is flawed IMO. Around 50% of people in at least America are married. Of that 50%, at least 50% will divorce (it will be messy, count on it), and of those that decide to walk the plank again, another 60% of those will divorce again, and again, and again.........Who usually wins in the USA? Women.... You betcha, especially if there are kids involved, unless the woman can be proven as a mental case suitable for a straight jacket, she will be given higher rank as the parent.


Yet, people seek to keep doing it..... Even on this site, basically no one comes here to say "I love my life", it is usually quite the opposite. Is this like the lottery where the odds are SO stacked, yet that micro chance of happiness makes it all worth it?

You can think what you want of me. I learned quick that good moral standards are not rewarded in society so I now just feel sorry for those women that cross my path.

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This post reminds me of thousands of times when I was the “wing man”.

I am a woman.

It happens both ways.

Thank you for the dinner? Taxi home? Couple of beers? Telling me you were single when your pregnant wife was at home?

Yaaaaaa


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I am not sure why the thread steered towards me. I was basically wondering how and why people still desire this "marriage/kids/spouse/etc/etc"? Statistics, threads on this site, and even one moderator, seem to indicate that this mentality is flawed IMO. Around 50% of people in at least America are married. Of that 50%, at least 50% will divorce (it will be messy, count on it), and of those that decide to walk the plank again, another 60% of those will divorce again, and again, and again.........Who usually wins in the USA? Women.... You betcha, especially if there are kids involved, unless the woman can be proven as a mental case suitable for a straight jacket, she will be given higher rank as the parent.


Yet, people seek to keep doing it..... Even on this site, basically no one comes here to say "I love my life", it is usually quite the opposite. Is this like the lottery where the odds are SO stacked, yet that micro chance of happiness makes it all worth it?
Of course not it is a site to help people with their marital problems, so go figure!

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I like this site. It helped me to sort out how I wanted to go forward in a dating relationship I had at the the time. And 8 years on, I am happily married to the same guy.

I was before spoonfed the "if you don't like it, move on" kind of advice. That works great when you're about 18 not when you're 50 +. sadly, the world does get smaller.

Whether a relationship works out or not, you can really do yourself a favor by learning to negotiate.
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You know, I am going to say something the may be controversial. Everything you said may be true, a good majority of people may act like you described but there is an answer as to why people like me keep trying......HOPE.

Hope that I can find other people that have the same dreams, desires, love and compassion that I do. Yes, I have been hurt by people that have acted exactly the way you described. Yes, I am bitter about it but NO, I have not let it warp my view of the world. If anything, it has made me smarter and more protective of who I allow in my inner circle.
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Me too! For the most part, I know which threads to stay away from.


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