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I'd rather have a calm inteliigent debate with someone who disagrees with me than a conversation with someone who doesn't, but for all the wrong reasons . . . because of how they "feel" about it.

My family has a tradition of arguing politics. I haven't seen much of my family at the holidays for the last two years since my mother died (and she was English - half of my family is). But my family did come over in January and my brother confessed that he's not into Trump and wasn't really happy at the options, but that all the noise about Trump enriching himself is troublesome. He said, Obama got rich when he left the office. And I've accused my brother of being racist before, didn't go there, but just said, and our father's friend the Clintons did too, and before that George W. Bush added to his hefty war chest.

The SJW's think they can make change by being obnxious and shrill, because it makes them feel they are being heard. And they're not. They mean well, they really do. But maybe it is my age . . . I thought those stupid pink hats with the ears at the Women's March were not the most effective way to get the word out. If your argument is valid, it speaks for itself.

And @RandomDude, America is no longer FEELS like a meritocracy, if it ever was one.
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I'd rather have a calm inteliigent debate with someone who disagrees with me than a conversation with someone who doesn't, but for all the wrong reasons . . . because of how they "feel" about it.

My family has a tradition of arguing politics. I haven't seen much of my family at the holidays for the last two years since my mother died (and she was English - half of my family is). But my family did come over in January and my brother confessed that he's not into Trump and wasn't really happy at the options, but that all the noise about Trump enriching himself is troublesome. He said, Obama got rich when he left the office. And I've accused my brother of being racist before, didn't go there, but just said, and our father's friend the Clintons did too, and before that George W. Bush added to his hefty war chest.

The SJW's think they can make change by being obnxious and shrill, because it makes them feel they are being heard. And they're not. They mean well, they really do. But maybe it is my age . . . I thought those stupid pink hats with the ears at the Women's March were not the most effective way to get the word out. If your argument is valid, it speaks for itself.

And @RandomDude, America is no longer FEELS like a meritocracy, if it ever was one.
This is actually a great point.

Once the participants in the Women's March donned the ***** hats, it gave the signal that it was safe to stop listening.

Quickly followed by Madonna confessing she was fantasizing of blowing up the White House.

Great strategy.
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This is actually a great point.

Once the participants in the Women's March donned the ***** hats, it gave the signal that it was safe to stop listening.

Quickly followed by Madonna confessing she was fantasizing of blowing up the White House.

Great strategy.
Change the world by wearing knitwear pudenda hats?

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Change the word by wearing knitwear pudenda hats?

Right...
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I actually had one of my employees drive to DC to attend that thing.

You know, the one that tells me how she doesn't have enough time for personal business.
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This is actually a great point.

Once the participants in the Women's March donned the ***** hats, it gave the signal that it was safe to stop listening.

Quickly followed by Madonna confessing she was fantasizing of blowing up the White House.

Great strategy.
Monika beat her to it.
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Llew Gardner once asked Margie about what she thought of socialism and the Labour Party. Her answer will go down in history as the one of the wisest damnations of socialism that will ever be spoken:
I can still remember the appalling mess the labour party and the unions had got us into before Maggie came and kicked their butts.
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I can still remember the appalling mess the labour party and the unions had got us into before Maggie came and kicked their butts.
@Diana7, I lost a very good, highly paid job during the very severe and deep Labour recession which started in the mid to late 1970s.


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I can still remember the appalling mess the labour party and the unions had got us into before Maggie came and kicked their butts.
Still, she was never popular was she? The liberal American press despised her.
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Still, she was never popular was she? The liberal American press despised her.
They attempted to forget her the minute her term ended.

Same thing the American press attempted with Reagan.

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@Diana7, I lost a very good, highly paid job during the very severe and deep Labour recession which started in the mid to late 1970s.
That's very sad. I was in my last year at school during the worst of it and I can still remember the daily power cuts etc The unions were running rampant.
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Still, she was never popular was she? The liberal American press despised her.
Well she was the first female PM we had had, and also a very strong determined lady, that is enough for some to hate her, and of course the lefties will always hate any leader of the conservative party.
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Well she was the first female PM we had had, and also a very strong determined lady, that is enough for some to hate her, and of course the lefties will always hate any leader of the conservative party.
Reagan admired her. They were good chums.

And she was a tough lady. I remember when the Falkland War broke out. She didn't flinch one bit. She sent the navy down there and they took care of business.
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Reagan admired her. They were good chums.

And she was a tough lady. I remember when the Falkland War broke out. She didn't flinch one bit. She sent the navy down there and they took care of business.
And she soon sorted those awful union people out. They had bought this country to its knees.
I like a tough leader. Theresa May is also tough, but not in such an 'in your face' way. She is though, and determined, and is also a woman of integrity and strong moral values.

Apart from Churchill, I cant think of a good strong tough male leader we have had for so long.
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And she soon sorted those awful union people out. They had bought this country to its knees.
I like a tough leader. Theresa May is also tough, but not in such an 'in your face' way. She is though, and determined, and is also a woman of integrity and strong moral values.

Apart from Churchill, I cant think of a good strong tough male leader we have had for so long.
Britain's female leaders were always stronger than the men. History has proven it over and over. Starting with Boudica who nearly drove out the Romans. Then Queen Elizabeth I was probably the best of them all. She was light years ahead of her male progenitors as a leader and thinker. There wasn't another decent monarch after her until Queen Victoria. Look at how Britain jumped ahead in technology, literature, the arts while under both their rules. Queen Elizabeth II has done a good job although you cannot really compare her to them since she is essentially a just a figurehead.

Our General Patton was the perfect wartime general, but in peace-time he would have been a disaster had he not surreptitiously died right at WWII's end. Churchill was the same as Patton in many ways: he was in his element during the war as the warlord of England when he had unlimited decision-making authority, but he was too heavy-handed for peace time when he had to share power; which is why his administration faltered in the post WWII years.

Thatcher showed she was well balanced during peace as well as during strife. She was merciless against the IRA, fought to maintain Britain's navy, and had no problem telling Reagan or Bush Sr. to go pound sand when they got too pushy. I admired the hell out of her.
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