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@repMikeTurner: "Mr. Sondland, let's be clear: no one on this planet—not Donald Trump, Rudy Guiliani, Mick Mulvaney, Mike Pompeo—no one told you aid was tied to political investigations, is that correct."

Gordon Sondland: "That's correct."
You’re also conflating the two quid pro quos- the meeting and the money.

He clearly said the meeting was a quid pro quo directly from Trump, and everybody knew it. Including Pompeo.

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Saying that Trump is racist and a misogynist is a bald face lie.
No it isn't, and I take such accusations very seriously so I'm going to ask you to take a giant ****ing step back from that assertion.

Here is my evidence:

1. Trump is a racist:

In 1973, Trump and his company Trump Management were sued by the U.S. Department of Justice for housing discrimination against African-American renters: he settled the suit without any admission of wrongdoing.[7][8][9] The Justice Department sued again in 1978, claiming continued racial discrimination and a breach of the original agreement, but that case expired in 1982 without resolution.[10]

Trump's own words:“You Don’t Want to Live With Them Either”

In 2011, Trump became the leading proponent of the already discredited "Birtherism" conspiracy theory that President Barack Obama was not born in the US, repeating the claim for the following five years.[11][12] In a notorious and racially charged case, Trump continued to insist, as late as 2019,[13][14] that a group of black and Latino teenagers were guilty of the 1989 rape of a white woman in the Central Park jogger case, despite the fact that the five had been officially exonerated in 2002, following the confession of an imprisoned serial rapist, confirmed by DNA evidence.[15][16][17]

Trump launched his 2016 presidential campaign with a speech in which he made a statement about Mexican immigrants: "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people".[18][19] His claims that a judge should be disqualified from deciding a specific case due to his "Mexican heritage" were criticized as racist. He tweeted false statistics claiming that African Americans are responsible for the majority of murders of white Americans, and in some speeches he has repeatedly linked African Americans and Hispanics with violent crime.[20][21] During his presidency, comments he made following a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, were perceived as implying a moral equivalence between white supremacist marchers and those who protested against them. In 2018, during an Oval Office meeting about immigration reform, he referred to El Salvador, Haiti, and African countries as "****holes"; this comment was internationally condemned as racist.[22][23][24] In July 2019, Trump tweeted that Democratic congresswomen needed to "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done".[25] The statement was criticized by news outlets such as The Atlantic as a common racist trope.[26]

From the book Trumped! The Inside Story of the Real Donald Trump—His Cunning Rise and Spectacular Fall
He was very much the kind of person who would take people of a religion, like Jews; or a race, like blacks; or a nationality, like Italians, and ascribe to them certain qualities. Blacks were lazy, and Jews were good with money, and Italians were good with their hands—and Germans were clean.
This was later confirmed by Trump himself in an interview.

In the early 1990s, Trump attempted to block the building of new casinos in Connecticut and New York that could cut into his casino operations in Atlantic City. (All of Trump’s casinos eventually went into bankruptcy.) In October 1993, Trump appeared before the House Subcommittee on Native American Affairs of the Committee on Natural Resources. The subcommittee was chaired by Bill Richardson, later New Mexico’s governor. Trump was there to support an effort to modify legislation that had given Native American tribes the right to own and operate casinos. George Miller, a Democrat from California and the chair of the Committee on Natural Resources, was also present.

His own words: “They Don’t Look Like Indians to Me”

In the summer of 2005, Donald Trump had an idea: What if the next season of his reality-TV show, The Apprentice, pitted “a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites”? Trump thought the format would be a sort of social commentary—“reflective of our very vicious world.” The concept never made it to air, but Trump’s treatment of black contestants on his show generated controversy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial...f_Donald_Trump
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...mments/588067/

How about his assertion that some white supremicists are good people? And there is so, so much more here. The TL;DR on the racist story is not only does he say racist things and do racist things, he's actually been successfully sued for running a company that does racist things. Ergo, he's a racist.


Trump is a misogynist:
On Halle Berry

1. "I love her … upper body." [February 2013]

On Beyoncé

2. "When Beyoncé was thrusting her hips forward in a very suggestive manner, if someone else would have done that it would have been a national scandal. I thought it was ridiculous ... I thought it was not appropriate." [February 2013]

On Carly Fiorina

3. "Look at that face. Would anybody vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president? I mean, she's a woman, and I'm not supposed to say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?" [Sept. 9, 2015]

4. "Why does she keep interrupting everybody?" [Nov. 10, 2015]

On Jessica Chastain

5. "She's certainly not hot." [February 2013]

On Stormy Daniels

6. "Horseface" [Oct. 16, 2018]

On Cher

7. "Cher is somewhat of a loser. She's lonely. She's unhappy. She's very miserable." [May 12, 2012]

8. "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries that didn't work." [Nov. 13, 2012]

On Mika Brzezinski

9. "I heard poorly rated @morning_Joe speaks badly of me (don't watch anymore). Then how come low I.Q. Crazy Mika, along with Psycho Joe, came to Mar-a-Lago 3 nights in a row around New Year's Eve, and insisted on joining me. She was bleeding badly from a face-lift. I said no!" [June 29, 2017]

On Hillary Clinton

10. "If Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband, what makes her think she can satisfy America?” [April 16, 2015]

11. "She got schlonged." [Dec. 21, 2015]

12. On Clinton taking a bathroom break at a Democratic debate: "I know where she went, it's disgusting, I don't want to talk about it … No, it's too disgusting. Don't say it, it's disgusting." [Dec. 21, 2015]

13. "If she were a man, I don't think she'd get five percent of the vote." [April 26, 2016]

14. "Does she look presidential, fellas? Give me a break." [Sept. 6, 2016]

15. "Such a nasty woman." [Oct. 19, 2016]

On Democratic Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand

16. "[S]omeone who would come to my office 'begging' for campaign contributions not so long ago (and would do anything for them)." [Dec. 12, 2017]

On Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters

17. "An extraordinarily low IQ person." [June 25, 2018]

On French first lady Brigitte Macron

18. "You know, you're in such good shape. Beautiful." [July 13, 2017]

On Steffi Graf

19. "You never get to the face because the body's so good." [Sept. 23, 2004]

On Paris Hilton

20. "Now, somebody who a lot of people don't give credit to but in actuality is really beautiful is Paris Hilton. I've known Paris Hilton from the time she's 12, her parents are friends of mine, and the first time I saw her she walked into the room and I said, 'Who the hell is that?'" [2003]

On Arianna Huffington

21. "Unattractive both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man — he made a good decision." [Aug. 28, 2012]

On Omarosa Manigault-Newman

22. "A crazed, crying lowlife" and a "dog." [Aug. 14, 2018]

On Angelina Jolie

23. "Angelina Jolie is sort of amazing because everyone thinks she's like this great beauty. And I'm not saying she's an unattractive woman, but she's not beauty, by any stretch of the imagination." [October 2007]

24. "I really understand beauty. And I will tell you, she's not — I do own Miss Universe. I do own Miss USA. I mean I own a lot of different things. I do understand beauty, and she's not." [October 2007]

25. "I remember at the Academy Awards a few years ago she was frenching her brother. She was giving her brother lip kisses like I never saw before in my life. And she had just said she made love to Billy Bob Thornton in the back of the limousine on the way over. And I wouldn't want to shake her hand, by the way." [October 2007]

On Kim Kardashian

26. "Does she have a good body? No. Does she have a fat ass? Absolutely." [Feb. 6, 2013]

27. Asked if her butt is big: "Well, absolutely. It's record-setting. In the old days, they'd say she has a bad body.” [June 18, 2014]

On Megyn Kelly

28. "She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions. You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever." [Aug. 7, 2015]

29. "Bimbo." [Aug. 7, 2015]

On Heidi Klum

30. "Sadly, she's no longer a 10." [Aug. 15, 2015]

On Lindsay Lohan

31. "What do you think of Lindsay Lohan? There's something there, right? But you have to like freckles. I've seen a close-up of her chest. And a lot of freckles. Are you into freckles? ... She's probably deeply troubled, and therefore great in bed. How come the deeply troubled women — deeply, deeply troubled — they're always the best in bed?" [2004]

On Rosie O'Donnell

32. "We're all a little chubby but Rosie's just worse than most of us. But it's not the chubbiness — Rosie is a very unattractive person, both inside and out." [2006]

33. "Rosie's a person who's very lucky to have her girlfriend and she better be careful or I'll send one of my friends over to pick up her girlfriend. Why would she stay with Rosie if she had another choice?" [2006]

34. “If I were running The View, I'd fire Rosie O'Donnell. I mean, I'd look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I'd say, 'Rosie, you're fired.'" [2006]

35. "Can you imagine the parents of Kelli ... when she said, 'Mom, Dad, I just fell in love with a big, fat pig named Rosie?'" [Dec. 29, 2006]

On Bette Midler

36. " @betteMidler talks about my hair but I'm not allowed to talk about her ugly face or body --- so I won't. Is this a double standard?" [Oct. 28, 2012]

37. Two minutes later: "While @betteMidler is an extremely unattractive woman, I refuse to say that because I always insist on being politically correct." [Oct. 28, 2012]

On the #MeToo movement

38. "It is a very scary time for young men in America, where you can be guilty of something you may not be guilty of. … Women are doing great." [Oct. 2, 2018]

39. "You've got to deny, deny, deny and push back on these women. If you admit to anything and any culpability, then you're dead. … You've got to be strong. You've got to be aggressive. You've got to push back hard. You've got to deny anything that's said about you. Never admit." [Via Bob Woodward's Fear: Trump in the White House]

On Princess Diana

40. Three weeks after her death, Trump was asked if he could have "nailed" Princess Diana: "I think I could have." [1997]

On Kristen Stewart

41. "Robert I'm getting a lot of heat for saying you should dump Kristen — but I'm right. If you saw the Miss Universe girls, you would reconsider." [Oct. 18, 2012]

On Ivanka Trump, his daughter

42. "She does have a very nice figure ... if [she] weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her." [June 4, 2004]

43. When asked if Ivanka, then 24, had breast implants: "She's actually always been very voluptuous." [2006]

On Melania Trump, his wife

44. When asked if he would stay with her if she was disfigured in a car crash: "How do the breasts look?" [April 11, 2005]

On Tiffany Trump, his daughter

45. "Well, I think that she's got a lot of Marla. She's a really beautiful baby, and she's got Marla's legs." Motioning to his chest, Trump added: "We don't know whether she's got this part yet, but time will tell." [1994]

On Nancy O'Dell

46. "I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try and f-ck her. She was married." [2005]

On the women of The Apprentice

47. "All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously. That's to be expected." [2004]

48. “It's certainly not groundbreaking news that the early victories by the women on The Apprentice were, to a very large extent, dependent on their sex appeal." [2004]

49. To a contestant on The Apprentice: "That must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees." [2013]

On women he has relationships with

50. "You know, it doesn't really matter what [the media] write as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of ass." [1991]

51. On whether he's had sex with a black woman: "Well, it depends on what your definition of black is." [2005]

52. "I'd have no problem" sleeping with 24-year-olds. (Trump was 60 at the time.) [2006]

53. "I don't want to be like Congressman Foley, with, you know, 12-year-olds." [2006]

54. "Oftentimes when I was sleeping with one of the top women in the world I would say to myself, thinking about me as a boy from Queens, 'Can you believe what I am getting?'" [2008]

On women, generally

55. "Women have one of the great acts of all time. The smart ones act very feminine and needy, but inside they are real killers. The person who came up with the expression 'the weaker sex' was either very naive or had to be kidding. I have seen women manipulate men with just a twitch of their eye — or perhaps another body part." [1997]

56. "There's nothing I love more than women, but they're really a lot different than portrayed. They are far worse than men, far more aggressive, and boy, can they be smart!" [1997]

57. '"I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I'm more honest and my women are more beautiful." [Nov. 17, 1999]

58. "26,000 unreported sexual assaults in the military — only 238 convictions. What did these geniuses expect when they put men & women together?" [May 7, 2013]

59. To a female reporter: "We could say, politically correct, that look doesn't matter, but the look obviously matters. Like you wouldn't have your job if you weren't beautiful." [2014]

60. "I've got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything ... Grab them by the *****. You can do anything." [2005]

His. Own. Words. And there's more, if you'd, you know, do some fact checking.

https://theweek.com/articles/655770/...id-about-women

Even more:
Tasha Dixon was 18 when she competed in the Miss USA pageant, winning the state crown.

“Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half naked changing into our bikinis,” Ms Dixon told CBS.

“He just came strolling right in. There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Other girls were naked.”

She added that people who worked for Mr Trump “pressured” the women to “fawn over him, go walk up to him, talk to him, get his attention” while still not fully dressed.

Ms Dixon added the situation made them feel awkward and physically vulnerable.

Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant also said the Republican used to walk in. Some of the girls were as young as 15.

Trump's own words about it on Stern - and I quote - “You know they’re standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7357866.html

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The rest of your rant is just opposition talking points spread by a tainted bias media. A media that has covered up sex crimes by Epstein, Clinton and their friends. They could have stopped this three years ago and saved women from Pedophile Island. They could have made an issue of Hillary’s countless felonies as she cleaned evidence from her computers etc.
I have never once defended either of the Clintons, here or elsewhere. So stop trying to do what Trump does and distract.

And want to talk about tainted, biased media? Here's Fox's headline on Sondland's testimony: Sondland rocks inquiry with shifting claims over 'quid pro quo'

Here's what he said - and I quote - "I know that members of this committee frequently frame these complicated issues in the form of a simple question: Was there a quid pro quo?" Sondland said. "As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and the White House meeting, the answer is yes."

I'm not even going to comment on the rest, because you've obviously not been paying attention to what I'm saying, because I have never once defended, supported, or endorsed the Democrats.

But to call me a liar is crossing a line, and just shows that you haven't actually looked into anything that I've said.

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Accusations filed in court against Trump

Ivana and Donald Trump in 1985
Ivana Trump and Donald Trump married in 1977.[3] Ivana stated in a deposition taken in 1989, during their divorce proceedings, that Donald had visited her plastic surgeon following which he had expressed anger and ripped out hair from her scalp.[1] Donald said the allegation was "obviously false".[3] The book Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald Trump (1993), by Harry Hurt III, described the alleged attack as a "violent assault" during which Donald attacked Ivana sexually.[3] According to the book, Ivana later confided to some of her friends that Donald had raped her.[3] In a statement given just before the publication of Hurt's book, and included in the book, Ivana said:

[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a "rape," but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.

— Ivana Trump[3][1]
The Trumps' divorce was granted in December 1990[20] on grounds that Donald's treatment of Ivana, including his affair with Marla Maples, was "cruel and inhuman".[3][21][22] According to Trump's lawyer, Jay Goldberg, this was based on Trump having been seen in public with Marla Maples in 1990.[20] Their settlement[a] had a confidentiality clause preventing Ivana discussing the marriage or the divorce.[4][1] In 1992, Trump sued Ivana for not honoring a gag clause in their divorce agreement by disclosing facts about him in her best-selling book, and Trump won a gag order.[25][26][27]

Jill Harth (1992)
Jill Harth alleged that Trump assaulted her several times. Harth has stated that in December 1992, while dining with Trump and her then-boyfriend George Houraney, Trump attempted to put his hands between her legs.[1] Harth and Houraney visited Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida in January 1993 for a contract-signing celebration. Trump, according to Harth, offered her a tour before pulling her into the empty bedroom of his daughter Ivanka. "I was admiring the decoration, and next thing I know he's pushing me against a wall and has his hands all over me. He was trying to kiss me. I was freaking out." Harth says she desperately protested against Trump's advances and eventually managed to run out of the room. She and her boyfriend left rather than stay the night, as they had intended.[1] After she became engaged, Harth alleges, Trump began to stalk her.[3]

Harth filed a lawsuit in 1997 in which she accused Trump of non-consensual groping of her body, among them her "intimate private parts",[29][30] and "relentless" sexual harassment.[31] The suit was withdrawn after Houraney settled with Trump for an undisclosed amount in a lawsuit that claimed that Trump backed out of a business deal.[1][32] She still claims to have been sexually assaulted[1] and although he was never violent with her, she says his actions were "unwanted and aggressive, very sexually aggressive".[3]

Following the incident, Harth said she received "a couple years of therapy". In 2015 she reached out to Trump's campaign to get a job as a makeup artist and sell her men's cosmetic product line. She later said, "Yes, I had moved on but had not forgotten the pain [Trump] brought into my life. I was older, wiser. Trump was married to Melania and I had hoped he was a changed man."[33] She worked at one of Trump's rallies as a makeup artist. Of the experience, she said: "I'm a makeup artist. The guy is a mess, OK? He really needed my services, and I'm a makeup artist that needs a job. Why would, if I was on friendly terms, why wouldn't I try to get that job?"[3]

Harth's lawsuit was first published in February 2016 by LawNewz.com.[34] Her case was first published in May 2016[3] in The New York Times article "Crossing the Line".[35] Trump characterized her story in the Times as "false, malicious and libelous" and stated that he "strongly denies the claims".[3] Harth stood by her charges in a July 2016 interview with The Guardian.[32] In October 2016, she stated that, if sued by Trump, she intends to counter-sue.[36]

Summer Zervos (2007)
Summer Zervos was a contestant on the fifth season of The Apprentice, which filmed in 2005 and aired in 2006.[37][b] Subsequently, she contacted Trump in 2007, about a job after the show's completion, and he invited her to meet him at The Beverly Hills Hotel. Zervos has said that Trump was sexually suggestive during their meeting, kissing her open-mouthed, groping her breasts,[37] and thrusting his genitals on her.[39] She also has said that his behavior was aggressive and not consensual.[38] Zervos is being represented by attorney Gloria Allred.[40]

John Barry, her cousin and a Trump supporter, has said that Zervos talked to her family and friends about Trump, promoting his candidacy and stating how Trump had helped her out in her life. Barry said that during the presidential primary campaign, Zervos invited Trump to her restaurant, and he declined.[40][41] In October 2016, the Trump presidential campaign released an email by Zervos, sent to Trump's secretary in April 2016, in which she stated: "I would greatly appreciate reconnecting at this time. He will know my intentions are genuine." Zervos said that she had intended to confront Trump and give him the "opportunity to clear the air." She said that on April 21, she sent another email to Trump's assistant which she asked to be forwarded to Trump, in which she stated: "I have been incredibly hurt by our previous interaction."[41]

On January 17, 2017, Zervos filed a defamation lawsuit against Trump, arising from his statement that she had lied about the allegations.[42][43] Marc Kasowitz is defending Trump in the case.[44] Zervos has filed a subpoena for "all documents concerning any woman who asserted that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately".[45] On March 21, 2018, a New York Supreme Court judge decided to allow a defamation lawsuit against the President to go forward.[46][47][48] On June 4, 2018, Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Jennifer Schecter ruled that Trump must be deposed by January 31, 2019.[49]

As of September 9, 2018, Trump will provide written answers under oath in the defamation lawsuit.[50]

On March 14, 2019, a New York appeals court rejected President Trump’s argument that the Constitution makes him immune from state lawsuits, clearing the way for a defamation suit.[51][52] On November 2, 2019, Trump agreed to submit to questioning under oath by January 31, 2020.[53]

Alva Johnson (2019)
On February 25, 2019, Alva Johnson filed a lawsuit against Trump, alleging he had forcibly kissed her at a rally in Florida in August 2016 while she was working on his 2016 presidential campaign.[54] Johnson said that two people—including Pam Bondi, then the attorney general of Florida—saw the kiss, but both denied it.[55] According to an interview with Teen Vogue, Johnson decided to stop working for the Trump campaign after the media started covering the Access Hollywood tape. She declared sick days until she could speak to a lawyer.[56]

In addition to the "unwanted sexual attention", the lawsuit also alleges that Johnson was "a victim of race and gender discrimination through unequal pay."[56][57] In response, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders called the lawsuit "absurd on its face."[55]

May 2016 New York Times story
In May 2016, The New York Times published the article "Crossing the Line: How Donald Trump Behaved with Women in Private". For the article, Times reporters Michael Barbaro and Megan Twohey conducted 50 interviews with women who had known Trump socially, during their professional career, or while modeling or competing for a beauty pageant title.[35]

Their accounts—many relayed here in their own words—reveal unwelcome romantic advances, unending commentary on the female form, a shrewd reliance on ambitious women, and unsettling workplace conduct, according to the interviews, as well as court records and written recollections. The interactions occurred in his offices at Trump Tower, at his homes, at construction sites and backstage at beauty pageants. They appeared to be fleeting, unimportant moments to him, but they left lasting impressions on the women who experienced them.

Other women interviewed for the story, a few of whom had worked for Trump, stated they had not received unwanted advances and "they had never known Mr. Trump to objectify women or treat them with disrespect." Jill Martin, a vice president and assistant counsel at the company, said that Trump was supportive of her and her role as a mother. Laura Kirilova Chukanov, a Bulgarian immigrant and 2009 Miss USA pageant contestant, said that Trump helped her make connections for a documentary that she was working on about her home country.[35]

Rowanne Brewer Lane, Trump's former girlfriend, was quoted at length in the article and was featured in the opening anecdote. Following the article's publication, Brewer Lane accused The New York Times of taking her quotes out of context and said that she was "flattered" and not insulted by Trump. Trump spokesperson Barry Bennett responded to the story by stating: "They talked to 50 women and managed to put seven or eight in the story. Over half of them had great things to say. The one that had great things to say, they twisted it and called her debased which is not how she feels." The New York Times defended the story and said Brewer Lane was "quoted fairly, accurately and at length".[58]

Recording controversy and second 2016 presidential debate
Main article: Donald Trump Access Hollywood tape
Billy Bush
Billy Bush was recorded having "an extremely lewd conversation about women" with Trump in 2005.
Two days before the second 2016 presidential debate, the 2005 Access Hollywood tape was released, which records Trump having "an extremely lewd conversation about women" in which he described being able to kiss and grope women because he was "a star": "You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it, you can do anything ... grab them by the *****. You can do anything."[59] Many attorneys and media commentators have said that Trump's statements described sexual assault.[c]

On October 7, Trump released a video statement in which he stated, "I said it, I was wrong, and I apologize." He called the development a distraction and attempted to deflect attention to the Clintons, and in particular sexual assault scandals involving Bill Clinton. Republican critics called on him to withdraw from the presidential race.[59]

During the second debate, Anderson Cooper asked Trump if he understood that he had bragged about sexually assaulting women. Cooper used the Justice Department's sexual assault definition to include "any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient."[69][70] Trump denied that he had said that he had sexually assaulted women.[70][71] He claimed the comments were merely "locker room talk", then, after being asked three times whether he had ever kissed or groped any person without consent, he said "no I have not".[71] Several of his subsequent accusers said this was the moment at which they were motivated to come forward.[72][73][74]

Public allegations since 2016
Jessica Leeds (1980s)
In the early 1980s, Leeds was a businesswoman at a paper company on a flight from the Midwest, returning to New York. A flight attendant offered her an empty seat in the first-class cabin next to Trump. Leeds alleged that about 45 minutes after takeoff, Trump lifted the armrest and began touching her, grabbing her breasts, and tried to put his hand up her skirt. "He was like an octopus," she said. "His hands were everywhere. It was an assault."[72][75] Leeds said she had sent a letter containing her allegations to the editor of The New York Times.[3][72] Her story was printed by The New York Times in October 2016, along with the account from Rachel Crooks.[72]

Trump spokesman Jason Miller responded to the allegation calling it "fiction." Miller stated the charges were politically motivated "for this to only become public decades later in the final month of a campaign for president should say it all." Trump publicly threatened to sue the Times over the newspaper's publication of the allegation, and demanded a retraction.[76][77] The Times rejected Trump's retraction demand,[77][78] and Trump never followed through on his threat to take legal action against the company.[13] An alleged witness to the case who claimed he saw "nothing untoward" upon the flight was former British Conservative county councillor from Gloucestershire, Antony Gilberthorpe. Gilberthorpe has previously made false allegations against politicians[79] and has been previously accused of making "advances of an intimate nature" towards Conservative students.[80]

Kristin Anderson (1990s)
On October 14, 2016, The Washington Post reported an allegation by Kristin Anderson.[81] Anderson said that Trump groped her beneath her skirt in a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s. An aspiring model at the time of the alleged incident, Anderson told the story to her friends, and decided to come forward after reading accounts of other women who had done so.[81] Anderson believed that the alleged assault occurred at the China Club, a Manhattan nightclub that Newsday referred to as "Donald's Monday-night nest" due to his alleged habit of picking up women there.[81]

E. Jean Carroll (1995 or 1996)
In late June 2019, E. Jean Carroll, writer, former Miss Indiana University and former Miss Cheerleader USA, claimed in a New York magazine cover story that she was sexually assaulted by Trump in a Bergdorf Goodman department store dressing room in late 1995 or early 1996.[82][83][84]

Carroll wrote that they had met by chance in the department store, where he recognized her as "that advice lady", and that Trump had asked her to advise him on a present for "a girl". Trump took her to the lingerie section, where no one was around. Trump asked her to try on a piece of lingerie and took her to a dressing room; there he pushed her against a wall, causing her to hit her head "quite badly"; then he allegedly forcibly kissed her. Carroll then said, "he ... pulls down my tights ... forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway—or completely, I'm not certain—inside me". After a struggle, she said she escaped from the dressing room and left the store. She said the incident lasted for no more than three minutes.[82][85][86]

Carroll wrote that Bergdorf Goodman no longer had security tapes from that period and that she did not report the incident to the police, but that also she had told two friends of hers. One told Carroll that she had been raped and to make a police report. The other told Carroll, "Tell no one. Forget it! He has 200 lawyers. He’ll bury you." Carroll's friends confirmed those conversations to New York.[82][87]

Trump has given multiple responses, including: "she's not my type" and also saying he never met her.[88] However, in her story, Carroll had provided a photograph of her meeting Trump in 1987, along with Carroll's then-husband John Johnson and Trump's then-wife Ivana.[82][89]

The two friends Carroll had confided in was revealed by the New York Times to be writer Lisa Birnbach and news anchor Carol Martin, when they and Carroll appeared on the podcast of the New York Times taped on June 26, 2019, which narrated the following events: Carroll had remained silent for so long because she partially blamed herself for the incident, though she eventually stopped blaming herself. Carroll refused to say she was "raped", instead choosing to describe it thus: "My word is fight. My word is not the victim word ... Something has not been done to me. I fought."[90]

Lisa Boyne (1996)
On October 13, 2016, The Huffington Post reported an allegation by Lisa Boyne.[91] Boyne said that Sonja Morgan (then Sonja Tremont) invited her to a dinner with Trump, modeling agent John Casablancas, and five or six models. Boyne alleged that Trump made the models walk across the table, looked under their skirts, and described if they were wearing underwear. Morgan told The Huffington Post that the dinner took place with those participants, did not recall lewd behaviour by Trump, and said: "But I have been known to dance on tables." Boyne said she called her roommate Karen Beatrice that night to inform her about the incident. The Huffington Post contacted Beatrice, who denied any such call.[92]

Cathy Heller (1997)
On October 15, 2016, The Guardian reported an allegation by Cathy Heller that she was grabbed and kissed by Donald Trump two decades earlier.[93] Heller said that, in 1997, she met Trump when she attended a Mother's Day brunch with her children, her husband, and her husband's parents at his Mar-a-Lago estate. Her parents-in-law were members of Mar-a-Lago. Heller was introduced to Trump, who became angry when she avoided a kiss. He then "grabbed" her and, when he tried to kiss her, she turned her head. Trump kissed her on the side of the mouth "for a little too long" and then he left her.[93][94]

Heller's husband and children, who were present during the event, have corroborated her account. In the summer of 2015, the members of Heller's mahjong group heard Heller's account of the 1997 incident; this was not long after Trump announced his candidacy.[95] She decided to go public after seeing the second presidential debate on October 9, 2016. Heller is a registered Democrat, and public supporter of Hillary Clinton.[93]

Trump campaign spokesperson Jason Miller stated that Heller's account is "false" and "politically motivated".[95]

Temple Taggart McDowell (1997)
In May 2016, The New York Times reported allegations by Temple Taggart McDowell.[96] McDowell, who was Miss Utah USA in 1997, accused Trump of unwanted kisses and embraces that left McDowell and one of her chaperones so uncomfortable, according to McDowell, that she claimed she was instructed not to be left in a room alone with him again. According to McDowell, a chaperone had accompanied her to Trump's office.[97] At the time, McDowell was 21 and was known as Temple Taggart.[3] This incident occurred in Trump's first year of ownership of the Miss USA contest.[3]

McDowell told her story initially to The New York Times in May 2016[97] which was published in the "Crossing the Line: How Donald Trump Behaved With Women in Private" article.[35] She had not intended to speak publicly about the incidents again, but she received numerous calls recently due to the "Crossing the Line" article and felt, as a mother, that it is important to share a message about unwanted advances: "You have the right to say no. You have the right to get out of there. You have the right to leave, and you have the right to make them feel uncomfortable if they're making you feel uncomfortable," she said. Trump stated that he does not know her and denied McDowell's claims.[97] He also told The New York Times that he is "reluctant to kiss strangers on the lips."[3]

Taggart McDowell stated that she is a Republican, and not coming out with the allegation in order to support Hillary Clinton.[98]

Karena Virginia (1998)
At an October 2016 press conference with attorney Gloria Allred, yoga instructor and life coach Karena Virginia stated that in 1998, Trump grabbed her arm and touched her breast. Virginia, who was 27 years old at the time, was waiting for a ride after the US Open in Queens, New York.[99] She stated that Trump, whom she had not met previously, approached her with a small group of other men, while commenting on her legs, then he grabbed her right arm. Virginia continued, "Then his hand touched the right side of my breast. I was in shock. I flinched. 'Don't you know who I am? Don't you know who I am?'—that's what he said to me. I felt intimidated and I felt powerless."[99]

Trump campaign spokesperson Jessica Ditto responded to the allegation with a statement reading in part, "Discredited political operative Gloria Allred, in another coordinated, publicity seeking attack with the Clinton campaign, will stop at nothing to smear Mr. Trump."[100]

Mindy McGillivray (2003)
In an October 2016 article by The Palm Beach Post, Mindy McGillivray stated that in January 2003, when she was 23 years old, she was groped by Trump at his Mar-a-Lago estate.[3][74] She said, "All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it's [my friend Ken Davidoff's] camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there's Donald. He sort of looked away quickly."[3] Ken Davidoff, a photographer, corroborated McGillivray's account, saying he remembered her pulling him aside moments after the alleged incident to say "Donald just grabbed my ass!"[74]

McGillivray said that she "chose to stay quiet"[71] and never reported the incident to authorities. She had only shared details of the incident with close family and friends until she heard Trump deny such behavior during the second presidential debate on October 9, 2016.[74] Hope Hicks, Trump's press secretary, stated that McGillivray's allegations lacked "any merit or veracity" and were untruthful.[71]

Ken Davidoff's brother, Darryl Davidoff, said that he was also present at the time at Mar-a-Lago, and stated that in his opinion McGillivray is lying.[101][102] According to Darryl: "I do not believe it really happened. Nobody saw it happen and she just wanted to be in the limelight."[101][d]

Jennifer Murphy (2005)
In early October 2016, Grazia reported an allegation by Jennifer Murphy, a former contestant on the fourth season of The Apprentice. Murphy said that in 2005, after Trump had recently married Melania Knauss, she had a job interview with Trump. When she was leaving, Trump kissed her on the lips, which took her by surprise. Murphy said that Trump had offered her job interviews a day after she had left The Apprentice, that she ultimately declined his job offer, and that she would still vote for Trump in the 2016 election.[103]

Rachel Crooks (2005)
In 2005, Rachel Crooks was a 22-year-old receptionist at Bayrock Group, a real estate investment and development company in Trump Tower in Manhattan. She says she encountered Trump in an elevator in the building one morning and turned to introduce herself. They shook hands, but Trump would not let go. Instead, he began kissing her cheeks, then directly on the mouth.[72][75] "It was so inappropriate," Crooks recalled in an interview. "I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that."[75] Her story was printed by The New York Times in October 2016, along with that of Jessica Leeds.[72] Trump has disputed Crooks' claims,[3] writing on Twitter, "Who would do this in a public space with live security cameras running?"[104] Crooks is a public supporter and donor to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.[105]

Natasha Stoynoff (2005)
Canadian author and journalist Natasha Stoynoff, who wrote for People magazine and, previously, the Toronto Star and Toronto Sun, went to Trump's Florida estate in December 2005 to interview him and his wife, Melania. While there, Trump gave Stoynoff a tour of the Mar-a-Lago estate. She says that during this tour, he pushed her against a wall and forced his tongue into her mouth.[3][71]

Stoynoff described the alleged episode, "We walked into that room alone, and Trump shut the door behind us. I turned around, and within seconds he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat ... I was stunned. And I was grateful when Trump's longtime butler burst into the room a minute later, as I tried to unpin myself."[73] Stoynoff composed herself and conducted the interview,[3] after which she said Trump repeatedly told her, "We're going to have an affair, I'm telling you."[71][73] Melania was also interviewed for that article.[73]

Trump sent out a tweet on October 13, 2016, in which he said it had not happened and wondered why she had not mentioned the event in her People article of 2005.[3] Stoynoff responded that she had become angry when Trump denied assaulting women during the presidential debate and was triggered by the release of the Access Hollywood recording in early October. Until that point, she said, she had conflicting emotions common among victims of assault, combined with embarrassment and confusion. J.D. Heyman, People's deputy editor, said: "It was disorienting for her. She felt a great deal of worry and distress about it. Then she felt angry."[106]

That same day, Melania's lawyer demanded an apology from People magazine, stating that Melania did not say some or all of what was quoted in the People article by Stoynoff published on October 12, 2016; Melania specifically denied Stoynoff's claim that she'd run into her on Fifth Avenue following the article's publication.[107] In an interview with Anderson Cooper that aired October 17 on CNN, Melania again denied having crossed paths with Stoynoff on Fifth Avenue, as stated in Stoynoff's article. The following day, People published the account of Liza Herz. Herz said she witnessed the sidewalk encounter between Stoynoff and Melania Trump; Herz' account corroborated that of Stoynoff.[108]

On October 18, People produced six corroborating witnesses who said Stoynoff had recounted the incident to them around the time that it occurred.[108] The six witnesses were: "two editors from People, Mary Green and Liz McNeil; a professor of journalism, Paul McLaughlin; a co-worker; and two personal friends of Ms. Stoynoff."[109]

Trump's former butler at Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, Anthony Senecal, 85, was asked about the 2005 incident in which Stoynoff alleged that the butler "burst in" on Trump when she was pinned down by him; Senecal denied that ever happened, stating that as a butler "I don't burst in. I knock, then I go in, usually after someone says 'come in'," further alleging "And when I went in, there was nothing strange about where she was standing."[110][111] According to Senecal, the alleged incident took place in an old massage room with windows all around which made it unsuitable to grope anyone since there was no privacy.[110]

Juliet Huddy (2005 or 2006)
In early December 2017, the reporter Juliet Huddy said that Trump kissed her on the lips while they were on an elevator in Trump Tower with Trump's security guard in 2005 or 2006. Regarding this incident, Huddy said "I was surprised that he went for the lips. But I didn't feel threatened... Whatever, everything was fine. It was a weird moment. He never tried anything after that, and I was never alone with him."[112][113]

Jessica Drake (2006)
On October 22, 2016, Jessica Drake and attorney Gloria Allred held a news conference in which Drake accused Trump of having sexually assaulted her by grabbing tightly in a hug and kissed her and two acquaintances nearly ten years prior. Drake, an adult film actress and sex education advocate, said that she met Trump at her company's booth during a charity golf tournament at Lake Tahoe in 2006. Drake claims that she was invited to meet with Trump, who was married at the time, at his hotel suite; she was "uncomfortable going alone" and brought two friends. Describing the meeting with Trump, Drake recounted that "He grabbed each of us tightly, in a hug and kissed each one of us without asking permission."[114] Drake stated that she and her friends left the suite after 30–45 minutes. Shortly thereafter, Drake claims she received phone calls from Trump or his associate, requesting that she join him in his suite for $10,000, and offering to fly her on his jet back to Los Angeles. She said she declined his offers.[114]

During the news conference, Drake said, "I am not looking for monetary compensation. I do not need additional fame... I understand that I may be called a liar or an opportunist but I will risk that in order to stand in solidarity with women who share similar accounts."[114][115] During the news conference, Gloria Allred held up a picture showing Trump and Drake standing together at the time.[114]

In response to Drake's allegations, the Trump campaign stated that her story is "false and ridiculous", that "[t]he picture is one of thousands taken out of respect for people asking to have their picture taken with Mr. Trump" but Trump did not know Drake and "would have no interest in ever knowing her," and that the story was "just another attempt by the Clinton campaign to defame a candidate."[116] Donald Trump appeared to dismiss the significance of the accusation because of Drake's line of work, saying, "Oh, I'm sure she's never been grabbed before."[117][118]

Amanda Prestigiacomo, writing in The Daily Wire, has criticized Drake for suggesting that being greeted with a hug and a kiss without permission is "sexual assault".[119] According to Prestigiacomo, if this were to be "sexual assault" then everyone has been "sexually assaulted" numerous times, and making such a claim does a disservice to women who have actually faced sexual assault.[119]

Ninni Laaksonen (2006)
On October 27, 2016, a local Finnish tabloid, Ilta-Sanomat, reported an allegation by Ninni Laaksonen, Miss Finland 2006.[120] Laaksonen appeared with Trump on the Late Show with David Letterman on July 26, 2006.[121] Laaksonen claims that before they went on the air, Trump grabbed her buttocks. As Laaksonen describes the interaction: "He really grabbed my butt. I don't think anybody saw it but I flinched and thought: "What is happening?"[121] Someone later told Laaksonen that Trump liked her because she looked like his wife, Melania, when she was younger.[122][123][124]

Laaksonen revealed her account to a local Finnish tabloid, Ilta-Sanomat, which had contacted her regarding the level of professionalism involved in Donald Trump's handling of his employees within the Miss Universe pageant. The story was published on October 27, 2016.[125]

Cassandra Searles (2013)
Rolling Stone and NPR have reported that Cassandra Searles, Miss Washington USA of 2013, was fondled by Trump without her consent during the Miss USA pageant of that year.[3][126] In June 2016, Searles wrote that Trump invited her to his hotel room.[127]Yahoo!News published an article in June 2016[3] stating that Searles had made Facebook postings that accused Trump of making unwanted advances. She said that he was "continually" groping her buttocks and had asked her to go "to his hotel room".[3][126][128] Searles also asserted that Trump had "treated us like cattle".[128] Trump and his campaign have not specifically responded to Searles' allegations.[3]

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Schiff: I don't know who the whistleblower is.

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Marduk, some of those 60 misogynist things Trump said were pretty funny. I'm just sayin.

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I know, what a bunch of fools the Republicans are, wasting their time asking the same questions over and over again. It is amazing that you can infer that this meant they both knew who the whistleblower was, but are somehow unable to imagine there being a quid pro quo in all of this.
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If you read all that diatribe that’s a funny too. His lists that I had time for was political correct and woke run amok. Saying something disparaging about someone doesn’t mak them a racist or a racist woman hater. A racist would not date a black woman for a year. Trump has also taken care of his exes. A woman hater would not hire the first female superintendent to build a skyscraper.
Trump didn’t get accused of being any of these things until he became a Republican running for President. Coincidence?

Although have never groped a random woman, back in the day I was groped quite often by the ladies before I settled down. I sure as hell didn’t think of them as man haters.

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By the way, treating people unequally is racist. The Democrats fought tooth and nail against desegregation and equal rights. When that failed, Johnson made it his mission to take him incorporate the black population and not the Democrat party with welfare and other giveaways. The very fact that they go after “the black vote” is racist. The result of their “caring” has resulted in the destruction of black families, drug abuse, high crime rates and poor education rates. God help anyone the Democrats seek to “help.“

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Technically and legally, Schiff is correct. He doesn't officially know who the whistleblower is. That is, he hasn't seen the report with his name or an official hasn't told him. Certainly he knows person X and that person X is almost certainly the whistleblower, but Shiff has not officially been told that.

For example, Cain strikes Able with a rock. Able goes into the room where his mom is. A few minutes later, Mom comes out and whips Cain. Cain's reasonable assumption is that Able told their mom what happened, but Cain doesn't know that for certainty. There are other ways Mom could have found out, such as being told by God, being told by a snake, watching on surveillance cam, etc.

It's the same with Schiff and the whistleblower. There is a tiny gap in knowledge connecting person X to being the whistleblower. Since there is that tiny gap, Schiff can say he doesn't know who the whistleblower is. And before anyone slams Shiff for this "abhorrent behavior", keep in mind that every politician regardless of affiliation does basically the same thing when it suits their position.

For example, Giuliani and Sondland are at the WH. Sondland says he needs to know what Trump wants to do. Sondland sees Guiliani go into the Oval Office. Giuliani comes out a few minutes later and says "Trump wants us to bribe Zelensky by setting up a quid pro quo where we hold back aid until he creates a politically distracting investigation into Hunter Biden." When Sondland is testifying, the D's and R's will be approaching the situation from different angles. The R's will be highlighting that gap in knowledge to say that Sondland can't really know if that was Trump's desires. They could say Giuliani made it all up and never even spoke to Trump when he went in the Oval Office. The D's will be trying to close that gap and say it's reasonable to assume that since Trump was in the Oval Office when Giuliani went in, then those instructions were from Trump. But regardless, Sondland doesn't actually know what went on in the Oval Office and he can truthfully say that he doesn't know what Trump told Giuliani.

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By the way, treating people unequally is racist. The Democrats fought tooth and nail against desegregation and equal rights. When that failed, Johnson made it his mission to take him incorporate the black population and not the Democrat party with welfare and other giveaways. The very fact that they go after “the black vote” is racist. The result of their “caring” has resulted in the destruction of black families, drug abuse, high crime rates and poor education rates. God help anyone the Democrats seek to “help.“
Yup, sure is......https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Those dirty dems keeping the black man down.

In reality, both sides see all people groups as pawns in the game. To try and paint it like the Dems hurt a group or the Reps don't is silly as they all sell everyone out corporations and the wealthy.
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