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post #1756 of 2208 (permalink) Old 11-21-2019, 09:46 AM
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At least no one has come out with a photo of Trump in black face.

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I feel like Holmes is really providing some detailed and important information so far. I am sure we will get lots of misdirecting questions about if he knows the whistleblower though. Then we will maybe get to look at some stacks of paper and what word may or may not be in them and some posters with big numbers on them.
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So for the people who think there is nothing to see in this testimony, why are all of the witnesses doing this? Why do they all feel the way they do about this?

Are they all suffering from TDS?

I am genuinely curious how it just can be dismissed so cavalierly.

I really recommend that people listen to the opening statement from Dr Hill today.
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At least no one has come out with a photo of Trump in black face.
If it's a shot at Trudeau, I'm right there behind you.
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Marduk, some of those 60 misogynist things Trump said were pretty funny. I'm just sayin.
I guess that means that you think those kinds of things are acceptable to say?
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What's up with Nunes having problems calling Vindman his proper name and title?
He wants to reduce his status, and therefore his argument.

It's a classic technique. I've had similar things happen while in heavy negotiations during mergers and acquisitions.
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If you read all that diatribe that’s a funny too. His lists that I had time for was political correct and woke run amok. Saying something disparaging about someone doesn’t mak them a racist or a racist woman hater. A racist would not date a black woman for a year. Trump has also taken care of his exes. A woman hater would not hire the first female superintendent to build a skyscraper.
Trump didn’t get accused of being any of these things until he became a Republican running for President. Coincidence?

Although have never groped a random woman, back in the day I was groped quite often by the ladies before I settled down. I sure as hell didn’t think of them as man haters.

I think Marduk gives excellent advice on the other forums but I don’t think Russians, Ukrainians, Mexicans, Canadians or any other non citizens should be trolling this country or any other country’s elections.
And America and Americans don't feel free to speak their opinions about other country's politics? I've taken shots here at my country's politics. Hell, there's one right on this very page.

Lol. Instead of attacking the argument, you attack the one making it in an attempt to deflect and silence it. What a joke.

Saying racist things does indeed make you a racist. The woman he dated? He considered only 'kind of black.' His own words. And his 'go home' comment is actually used in government documents detailing what makes up racist speech - he's literally using the definition of racist language.

Doing racist things does indeed make you a racist.

Getting successfully sued for racism... makes you a racist.

Nearly everything I quoted included stuff he did or said before he was president. Dates and links were used. You're not even reading, you're just reacting in an attempt to end the debate.

Just for fun? Trump actually asked Canadian politicians to (illegally) chip in to his campaign fund, and also asked others:
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...ald-trump.html

So where exactly does that sit on "non-nationals shouldn't comment on our politics?"

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This might be fun if it weren't so damn easy.
It would be funny if it weren't so damn sad that you either didn't bother to read the entire quote or are so blinded by your hatred for Trump that you can't process written words which don't conform with your belief system.

I wouldn't jump back in but I don't take kindly to being misrepresented or quoted out of context. You're no better than the fake media, using deception to mischaracterize others.
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It's funny to watch Ratcliff trying to trip up Holmes with crazy specific details. Rather than have anything to dispute the nature of the details, it is all about playing gotcha!

The republicans are wasting their time preaching to their base.

Hill is great, I would rather she be up there than some of those people.


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I guess that means that you think those kinds of things are acceptable to say?
Marduk, there's a lot of things that ignoble to say, but nonetheless funny. Sides that, Trumps a counter puncher. If you say something about him, he'll dish it right back at you.

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Marduk, there's a lot of things that ignoble to say, but nonetheless funny. Sides that, Trumps a counter puncher. If you say something about him, he'll dish it right back at you.
= normalization of misogyny.
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Marduk, some of those 60 misogynist things Trump said were pretty funny. I'm just sayin.
I found 2 of the 60 to be misogynist, the rest were just rudeness that would be rude no matter who said them. I find it strange that whoever is interviewing him would ask the questions that prompt such answers. Perhaps they are private (overheard) conversations? IDK.

My point is who cares what Trump (or anyone else) thinks of Jolie, Cher, etc. Who asks such questions of public figures? I find it very strange.
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There's something bizarre about Trump's pre oucpation with celebrity.
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It would be funny if it weren't so damn sad that you either didn't bother to read the entire quote or are so blinded by your hatred for Trump that you can't process written words which don't conform with your belief system.

I wouldn't jump back in but I don't take kindly to being misrepresented or quoted out of context. You're no better than the fake media, using deception to mischaracterize others.
It's still clear you contradicted yourself, try sounding angrier.
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