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How will the impeachment of Donald Trump pan out

Without discussing the merits of impeachment of President Trump, how do you think the episode will conclude?

My thoughts are the Dems will pull the plug on impeachment to protect themselves from the fallout and will go with sanctions/censure of the President to inflect damage before the election.


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It will go no where,

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Without discussing the merits of impeachment of President Trump, how do you think the episode will conclude?

My thoughts are the Dems will pull the plug on impeachment to protect themselves from the fallout and will go with sanctions of the President to inflect damage before the election.
The act of impeachment alone will do that!

Some unfavorable Federal court rulings will soon hurt Trump! The House will impeach much along a party line vote, the Senate will hear the case, Chief Justice John Roberts will unpolitically follow the rule of federal law and will allow some very damning witnesses and testimony into evidence and will not allow debunked conspiracy theories as legitimate defenses!

After a 10 week trial where the defense will not call one witness, the Senate will vote and ultimately acquit, but the real damage will have already been done to Trump and the GOP!

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Re: How will the impeachment of Donald Trump pan out

It will die out when the dems find it's hurting them, or it becomes inconvenient to them.

They should worry more about passing current trade deals and getting some of the people's work done than keep throwing away money and time while they take no action on things that need to get done before holiday breaks.

Their biggest concern will soon turn to creating as many roadblocks as they can to keep Bloomberg out if the 2020 election.

All 17 of the so called candidates are watching their chances of getting the nomination go down the drain if Bloomberg gets on the list.

Too bad all the money and efforts wasted on the impeachment sham isn't going towards something productive for the country's real needs.
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Red state dems are already trying to back out of it. I think Vlad is right, it's going to fizzle.

Btw, I heard someone say yesterday that this impeachment in the house is bipartisan because a couple of dems and every republican voted against it.


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Yep Nucking Fut, I believe the only bipartisan part of it, if it goes that far, are some Dems voting with Repubs against impeachment.

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How will the impeachment of Donald Trump pan out

The House passes the impeachment ruling and does not in the Senate. If the House Democrats draw back it would actually weaken the Democratic Congress and embolden Trump.

Unfortunately for Trump, the inquiry hearings create enough damage that he loses in November 2020.

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Without discussing the merits of impeachment of President Trump, how do you think the episode will conclude?

My thoughts are the Dems will pull the plug on impeachment to protect themselves from the fallout and will go with sanctions of the President to inflect damage before the election.
I think congress will impeach him.

The senate will hold a quick show trial, find him not guilty, and that will be that.

I also predict that in 10 years the GOP will be no more as a consequence when all the facts actually come out, are understood, and the aging pro-Trump voters die off, leaving both a party and supreme court that is entirely disconnected from their ideals, as well as disconnected with reality. Part of the reason I'm so fascinated watching this all play out is that I know my children will ask me how all this happened... when the dust settles, movies come out, and facts start to matter again.

America has a choice: fascism, or not. Eventually it will choose not. Along the way everything that Trump, Jordan, etc normalized, will come back to bite the GOP - and it's voter base - hard. Imagine how it will go when some Democrat claims executive privilege, to be above the law, and openly courts direct support from say, China. "Hey China, invent 'evidence' on my opponent that will get him in jail and get me voted into power, and all your trade problems will go away once I'm in office..." And the howls will come from the GOP, but it will all be OK now because Trump did it. Having US elections up for the highest foreign bidder will be normal. And if you're the rest of the world, are you going to want someone like Trump in office ever again? He's bad for everyone, economically. Math always wins, because it must. And since you're now totally open to foreign influence, what do you think will happen?

I also predict Fox will degrade even more into pure neocon opinion pieces, be sued into oblivion and disbanded as the sham of a channel that it is.

This whole thing will be a running joke or a tale told to frighten children for a decade. If it doesn't cause some kind of civil unrest in the process - which I still think it might. I do not think Trump will leave office peacefully until he decides to - even if he's voted out.
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I think congress will impeach him.

The senate will hold a quick show trial, find him not guilty, and that will be that.

I also predict that in 10 years the GOP will be no more as a consequence when all the facts actually come out, are understood, and the aging pro-Trump voters die off, leaving both a party and supreme court that is entirely disconnected from their ideals, as well as disconnected with reality. Part of the reason I'm so fascinated watching this all play out is that I know my children will ask me how all this happened... when the dust settles, movies come out, and facts start to matter again.

America has a choice: fascism, or not. Eventually it will choose not. Along the way everything that Trump, Jordan, etc normalized, will come back to bite the GOP - and it's voter base - hard. Imagine how it will go when some Democrat claims executive privilege, to be above the law, and openly courts direct support from say, China. "Hey China, invent 'evidence' on my opponent that will get him in jail and get me voted into power, and all your trade problems will go away once I'm in office..." And the howls will come from the GOP, but it will all be OK now because Trump did it. Having US elections up for the highest foreign bidder will be normal. And if you're the rest of the world, are you going to want someone like Trump in office ever again? He's bad for everyone, economically. Math always wins, because it must. And since you're now totally open to foreign influence, what do you think will happen?

I also predict Fox will degrade even more into pure neocon opinion pieces, be sued into oblivion and disbanded as the sham of a channel that it is.

This whole thing will be a running joke or a tale told to frighten children for a decade. If it doesn't cause some kind of civil unrest in the process - which I still think it might. I do not think Trump will leave office peacefully until he decides to - even if he's voted out.
I dunno.

Respectfully I doubt most all of this.

But hey, I've learned long ago I don't know everything about everything so we'll see.
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Re: How will the impeachment of Donald Trump pan out

How will it pan out? Next week the dems will hold impeachment hearings and discuss what the original writers meant by high crimes and misdemeanors and decide at their time the definition is totally different than today. With that said, Trump who did not change the empty paper toilet roll in the Oval Officer bathroom will be cited for this high crime and misdemeanor by today's standard and definition as dictated by the dems. Impeachment proceedings will take 1 hour and Trump will be removed from office.

This crap impeachment and Russian collusion now going on 3 years is tiresome. Imagine if you would the dems putting effort into running the country like they do in impeaching a president. The swamp still smells of rot. It is the same people who have made this smell for the past 3 decades.


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How will it pan out? Next week the dems will hold impeachment hearings and discuss what the original writers meant by high crimes and misdemeanors and decide at their time the definition is totally different than today. With that said, Trump who did not change the empty paper toilet roll in the Oval Officer bathroom will be cited for this high crime and misdemeanor by today's standard and definition as dictated by the dems. Impeachment proceedings will take 1 hour and Trump will be removed from office.

This crap impeachment now going on 3 years is tiresome. Imagine if you would the dems putting effort into running the country like they do in impeaching a president. The swamp still smells of rot. It is the same people who have made this smell for the past 3 decades.
Imagine if Trump put as much effort into defending the constitution and enacting positive policies as he did doing the stuff that is likely leading to impeachment...
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The house will vote for impeachment, the Senate will Acquit.

Trump will win politically - this was always a no win situation for the democrats.
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The Dems will impeach. The Senate will vote not guilty. Trump will be re-elected. He will go on naming Federal Judges. He has named more than Bush & Obama combined. Thats where the real power is. Progressivism is toast.

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How will it pan out? Next week the dems will hold impeachment hearings and discuss what the original writers meant by high crimes and misdemeanors and decide at their time the definition is totally different than today. With that said, Trump who did not change the empty paper toilet roll in the Oval Officer bathroom will be cited for this high crime and misdemeanor by today's standard and definition as dictated by the dems. Impeachment proceedings will take 1 hour and Trump will be removed from office.

This crap impeachment and Russian collusion now going on 3 years is tiresome. Imagine if you would the dems putting effort into running the country like they do in impeaching a president. The swamp still smells of rot. It is the same people who have made this smell for the past 3 decades.


Trump will not be removed from office by impeachment because this will only be an exercise in the House. The Senate (by rules, I think) will take up the impeachment and not find Trump guilty of high crimes but may simply reprimand him for inappropriately delaying funds to Ukraine.

The exercise will damage Trump’s chances for re-election.


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The Dems on the Judiciary committee will try to push it hard. But they are also playing for time, so they'll stretch it out. Meanwhile, smarter Dems with a wider view will be trying desperately to make it all fade away because it is hurting Dems in 2020 far more than it is going to help.

We all know the Senate isn't going to convict. So there is no Dem play by sending it to the Senate, at least not until far enough into the 2020 election season to use a Senate acquittal as a hammer to beat Republicans over the head. So, either they stretch it out for months or they have overplayed their hand to the point of costing them many seats in 2020.

I think ultimately the hearings will die a quiet death. The public won't be very interested. Trump's support will widen and solidify, and Dems in Congress who are up for re-election will see their support fail except in rabid blue territory.

But I hope it goes to the Senate and they put on a big show. Call lots of witnesses, get all the testimony and supporting documentation. Lay it all out, all the dirty bits included. The Dems are trying to mis-use a very sacred process for purely political reasons, and they are doing great harm to the country. There is zero genuine concern on the part of Democrats to achieve justice. The only crimes Trump has committed are being Trump and getting elected, at least in their eyes.

Additionally, many of the mainstream news outlets will be further hurt by their fawning support of impeachment. Credibility will decline to even lower levels if that is even possible.
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