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That’s what is called an attempt to shame in order to **** some one up instead of discussion.
Open your eyes and Watch them yourself.
Take a look at the Muslim patrol in New York or the Detroit take over or the take over of the park in mass.

They don’t want anyone but immigrants in the mall while the Muslim fair celebration is taking place. The park in mass the locals are afraid to go to it anymore.

Muslims on patrol in New York is how the modern police started.

Take a look at the videos from Sweden or Switzerland.
Who exactly is a "them?"

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The Declaration of Independence

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

https://www.archives.gov/founding-do...ion-transcript

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I disagree with you.

Do you know what crushed the indigenous population?

No one.

They came across the land bridge from Asia to North America. No one is indigenous to North America.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...-a8140231.html
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Scientists investigating the DNA of a prehistoric human child have found it belongs to the earliest colonisers of the Americas ever discovered.
The findings suggest Alaska was likely populated 25,000 years ago, 10,000 years earlier than the time of arrival suggested by many archaeologists.

However, comparison of the number of genetic similarities and differences with those of other ancient and contemporary humans allowed the scientists to roughly time the movement of ancient people from Asia to North America to a much earlier date.
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Many of those living here when the first Europeans came to the continent(I don't know if you are including Central America, but I'm not) were killed by diseases they had no immunity to resist. Small pox, syphilis and killed millions which collapsed civilizations long before any of the folks from England got here. Those who spread those were the Spaniards. They came into this hemisphere with their diseases and without knowledge of them or didn't care.

The Spanish came looking for more gold, the fountain of youth(yute, lol), and traveled from Florida into Tennessee and over to the Mississippi River looking for it and encountering those living here. They spread these diseases and infections to them through contact.

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The four voyages of Columbus (between 1492 and 1504) served to open the door to European exploration, colonization and exploitation of the New World, although Columbus himself never set foot in North America. By the time the English began active colonization, the Spanish had already explored large portions of North America, especially in the South and Southwest.

Spanish conquest in the New World was driven by the three `G`s—gold, glory, and gospel. In his drive to gather riches, Columbus (and later conquistadors) enslaved and decimated the local populations. The numbers of these Native Americans plummeted, in part because of war against the colonial forces, but also because of the introduction of diseases to which the natives had no natural immunity. The natives contracted malaria, smallpox and measles from the Europeans, but passed on syphilis to the invaders in a morbid exchange.
The Spanish also came in through what is now the southern border of the U.S. They found nothing they wanted and left their horses, pigs, and cattle to spread.

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The earliest Europeans from England came to a colony they called Roanoke. They came in 1585.

https://www.britannica.com/story/the...ony-of-roanoke

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In 1587 a small colony was founded on an island off the eastern coast of North America. The settlement would have been the first permanent English colony in the New World, had the settlers not disappeared owing to unknown circumstances. The lost colony of Roanoke is one of the most-notorious mysteries in American history; the cryptic clues left at the abandoned settlement and the lack of any concrete evidence make it the focus of wild speculation and theories.

In the settlement’s difficult founding year, its mayor, John White, left for England to request resources and manpower. He returned three years later only to find the settlement empty—his wife, child, and grandchild, the first English child born in the Americas, having vanished. The word CROATOAN and the letters CRO, carved into trees within the colony’s borders, were the only signs pointing to an explanation. Despite the clues, the returning crew was unable to search for the missing colonists; a storm approached just as they came upon the desolate settlement, forcing them to turn back for England.

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Some, if not many of the founding fathers did not sign the Declaration on 4 July, 1776. In fact, they don't know who signed and who didn't on that date.

https://founders.archives.gov/
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Yet there remain two most troublesome items in Jefferson’s statement; first, that the Declaration was signed 4 July; second, that it was signed by “every member.” Again to consider the second point first, did Jefferson mean every member who was duly elected and actually serving in Congress at the time? Did he mean the same members who signed the engrossed parchment copy of the Declaration on 2 Aug.? Hazelton has accumulated a vast amount of information from many sources tending to show where each member was on 4 July, what his status was, whether or not it was possible for him to have signed on that day, and indicating which of those who signed the engrossed copy on 2 Aug. might have or could not have signed on the earlier date (Hazelton, Declaration of Independence, p. 193–219, 495–543).

They disagreed constantly over the issues. The Declaration was an ideal they did not match when the original nation was formed. The founding fathers had to revisit the documents and style of government.

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Among the vices of the American political system, JM included the impotence of the Confederation government: its inability to collect requisitions and to prevent the states from encroaching on its authority, violating treaties, and violating the rights of each other; its lack of control over commerce; and in general its lack of coercive power. Yet the dominant theme of Vices of the Political System was not the structural defects of the Articles of Confederation; the emphasis was rather on the deficiencies and derelictions of the state governments. More than half the work was devoted to the “multiplicity,” “mutability,” and “injustice” of the laws of the states. “The evils issuing from these sources,” JM remarked to Jefferson after the convention, “contributed more to that uneasiness which produced the Convention, and prepared the public mind for a general reform, than those which accrued to our national character and interest from the inadequacy of the Confederation to its immediate objects” (JM to Jefferson, 24 Oct. 1787, Boyd, Papers of Jefferson, XII, 276). JM’s chief concern was the unrestricted power of majorities in state legislatures to pass laws that violated the rights of individuals and minorities. Thus the great task of reform in his view was both to strengthen the national government and to provide “justice” for private individuals (see Edward S. Corwin, “The Progress of Constitutional Theory between the Declaration of Independence and the Meeting of the Philadelphia Convention,” AHR, XXX [1924–25], 512–13, 533–36).
What the above quote is intended to show you is that the founding fathers created a government that was oppressive and not where all men are created equal. Yes, they put that in the Declaration of Independence, but in practice, it did not include all.

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Who exactly is a "them?"
Anyone who "immigrates" to a country yet still claims, and offers allegiance to their first nationality.

Such is an occupying "force" announcing as much by continuing to fly their home countries flag.

Any of them who publicly announce, as many have done on video, they "don't give a **** about your laws, we will do as we please, and on your dime because you support us with a monthly check and housing."


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Can you believe I'm going to jump into this fray?
I have to admit, I am an unusual one
With neither Repub or Dem leanings
I think they are two wings of the same dragon! LOL

I read your article.
Living here in the Valley in the Pacific Northwest
We have a LOT of migrant workers that work in the orchards
So although our specific county is pretty conservative
We have a lot of the very people mentioned in this article
First or second generation
Working hard
No affordable housing
Can't quite "make it"

Here's my personal thoughts--you are free to disagree
And I don't believe I'll argue much
Mainly because I am a Libertarian in PHILOSOPHY
(Not so much "in party" as now that's just Repub Lite)
And I believe people have the right to vigorous disagree with me
AND I won't be offended by that. (SMH)

Anywho...

I have great empathy for these folks and for folks like them
Being poor is humiliating and discouraging and difficult
Trying to provide for children when the adults are barely hanging on
Is desperate and disheartening.

BUT

I believe as adults we are personally responsible for our decisions
No other person "owes us" anything
(Including food, shelter, healthcare or education)
And no government should be involved in that AT ALL!!

If we, as adults, bring children into the world
It is OUR JOB to feed them, clothe them, provide shelter, arrange for health care, and educate them.

Now, in centuries past, my own ancestors came to this fair country
From the isles of Ireland and England, and from the Polish/Czech/German border
All my ancestors FLED oppressors and military dictator type problems
All my ancestors left their homes and families and came here with NOTHING
None of my ancestors expected the USA to give them food stamps, housing, healthcare, or a college degree
None of my ancestors continued to speak in their native tongue and try to force those here in the US to speak THEIR language.

What they did is come here dirt poor and work like slaves
They scratched out a living on farms.
They spoke only in English because they said "We are Americans now"
They GREW food or if they were truly hungry, they turned to a church or a charity
They BUILT homes on a plot of land
They spoke to the doctors directly and worked out a payment plan when a child was sick
And they saved like squirrels so that one day, a grand-child could go to college and be the first family graduate.
They got visas, got here urgently but legally, worked HARD, and became legal citizens...
...and yet STILL, as legal citizens, they never expected the USA to give them food stamps, housing, healthcare, or a college degree.

So my thoughts regarding those who are homeless, immigrant, migrant types
Is that I personally have extreme empathy for you.
I know how frustrating it is to work 60-80 hours/week and have no way to pay for a doctor visit.
But the solution is not to offer illegal people "more stuff."
I would recommend that instead of expecting The Gov to take from A to give to B
How about if we personally walk up to a cold person and give them a coat?
Or buy a whole darn bag of groceries once a week and give it to that less fortunate family you go by every day!
Be personally charitable!
Work at a food bank--or face-to-face take care of a fellow human being who is struggling!

As for the immigrant types, here's my best advice:
If you want to come here, work hard, and try to provide for your family,
I'm not going to think less of you for wanting better. Shoot, I want to give my kids better!
But don't expect ME to finance YOU. I am a legal citizen of this country and I'm not financed.
If you want to have the right to vote and the rights of what we do have to offer for the less fortunate,
Do it the LEGAL WAY. Get a visa. Get here urgently. Work your buns off like my great-grands and grands did.
Speak English! Become an American.
And then, yes, some of the more fortunate do pay taxes for programs for those less fortunate
It's our duty as a CITIZEN. You aren't a citizen.
To my mind, anything a person earns, they should keep...all of it.
And then, as moral people of conscience, WE should invest for our own futures, and WE should voluntarily be people of charity.
Ideally someone who is wealthy is a steward of their finances and generous and kind--but it is theirs. They got it or earned it or received it in some way or another (maybe through the extremely hard work of a relative) so it's theirs to do with as they please. If you don't like it, YOU give YOUR OWN money away!

Hey, it's not like I can go to Germany (land of my heritage), not be a citizen there, and expect them to provide me (a non-citizen) food stamps, housing, healthcare, or a college degree! Why would anyone expect that here? Why is this even a debate?


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Thank you for your honesty.

I think that you are foolishly set in your ways and that you are hopeless in your beliefs.

And, we at SunCMars suspect you think the same of (us).

You have wishful thinking, that makes for good dreams, not for good reality.
Life is hard, will remain hard, that is a sure thing.

The Hun is at the gates, always has been, always will be.

Even if we move to some new planet, it is in our makeup to be 'this' way.


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Can you post alternate data that proves your theory?

I thought GAGirl posted some compelling evidence that you discount as wishful thinking. Why?

Where is the counter data that leads you to such surety?
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I disagree with you.

Do you know what crushed the indigenous population?

No one.

They came across the land bridge from Asia to North America. No one is indigenous to North America.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...-a8140231.html


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Many of those living here when the first Europeans came to the continent(I don't know if you are including Central America, but I'm not) were killed by diseases they had no immunity to resist. Small pox, syphilis and killed millions which collapsed civilizations long before any of the folks from England got here. Those who spread those were the Spaniards. They came into this hemisphere with their diseases and without knowledge of them or didn't care.

The Spanish came looking for more gold, the fountain of youth(yute, lol), and traveled from Florida into Tennessee and over to the Mississippi River looking for it and encountering those living here. They spread these diseases and infections to them through contact.

https://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h436.html


The Spanish also came in through what is now the southern border of the U.S. They found nothing they wanted and left their horses, pigs, and cattle to spread.

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The earliest Europeans from England came to a colony they called Roanoke. They came in 1585.

https://www.britannica.com/story/the...ony-of-roanoke




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Some, if not many of the founding fathers did not sign the Declaration on 4 July, 1776. In fact, they don't know who signed and who didn't on that date.

https://founders.archives.gov/



They disagreed constantly over the issues. The Declaration was an ideal they did not match when the original nation was formed. The founding fathers had to revisit the documents and style of government.

https://founders.archives.gov/



What the above quote is intended to show you is that the founding fathers created a government that was oppressive and not where all men are created equal. Yes, they put that in the Declaration of Independence, but in practice, it did not include all.


Your first link refers to Alaskan Natives, a group that is irrelevant to what happened to the Native Americans.

“Ancestors of Alaska Natives migrated into the area thousands of years ago, in at least two different waves. Some are descendants of a third wave of migration in which people settled across the northern part of North America. They never migrated to southern areas.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Natives

Fun fact: ALASKA was a Russian colony from 1744 until the USA bought it in 1867 for $7,200,000. It was made a state in 1959. Hawaii was a kingdom until 1893 and became a republic in 1894. It then ceded itself to the USA in 1898 and became a state in 1959.


These are the Native Americans I’m referring to:

“Native Americans were greatly affected by the European colonization of the Americas, which began in 1492, and their population declined precipitously overwhelmingly due to introduced diseases as well as warfare, including biological warfare,[3][4][5][6] territorial confiscation and slavery. After its creation, the United States, as part of its policy of settler colonialism, waged war and perpetrated massacres[7] against many Native American peoples, removed them from their ancestral lands, and subjected them to one-sided treaties and to discriminatory government policies into the 20th century.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nati..._United_States

I tried to click on your links to see the context that your quoted parts are in and it didn’t work, just takes me to some searchable page. Anywho, the Declaration of Independence was not just signed.. it was approved by the continental congress of the 13 original colonies, with 12 votes, and New York abstaining.

“Declaration of Independence, in U.S. history, document that was approved by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, and that announced the separation of 13 North American British colonies from Great Britain. It explained why the Congress on July 2 “unanimously” by the votes of 12 colonies (with New York abstaining) had resolved that “these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be Free and Independent States.” Accordingly, the day on which final separation was officially voted was July 2, although the 4th, the day on which the Declaration of Independence was adopted, has always been celebrated in the United States as the great national holiday—the Fourth of July, or Independence Day.”

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Dec...f-Independence

https://history.state.gov/milestones...83/declaration

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Your first link refers to Alaskan Natives, a group that is irrelevant to what happened to the Native Americans.

“Ancestors of Alaska Natives migrated into the area thousands of years ago, in at least two different waves. Some are descendants of a third wave of migration in which people settled across the northern part of North America. They never migrated to southern areas.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Natives

Fun fact: ALASKA was a Russian colony from 1744 until the USA bought it in 1867 for $7,200,000. It was made a state in 1959. Hawaii was a kingdom until 1893 and became a republic in 1894. It then ceded itself to the USA in 1898 and became a state in 1959.


These are the Native Americans I’m referring to:

“Native Americans were greatly affected by the European colonization of the Americas, which began in 1492, and their population declined precipitously overwhelmingly due to introduced diseases as well as warfare, including biological warfare,[3][4][5][6] territorial confiscation and slavery. After its creation, the United States, as part of its policy of settler colonialism, waged war and perpetrated massacres[7] against many Native American peoples, removed them from their ancestral lands, and subjected them to one-sided treaties and to discriminatory government policies into the 20th century.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nati..._United_States

I’ll have to get back to you on the Declaration of Independence comments, I’ll look into what you’re saying.


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My point was that they came from Asia. I proved that the earliest did come from Asia. Whether more migrated or they had enough offspring to expand and explore into the interior and find a warmer climate doesn't matter that much. They said they were the first here. They were not indigenous.

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SunCMars,

Can you post alternate data that proves your theory?

I thought GAGirl posted some compelling evidence that you discount as wishful thinking. Why?

Where is the counter data that leads you to such surety?
Be specific on what data that you support and I appear, not to.

As mentioned, much of what she presented is acceptable to me. But she extrapolates that data to things that are not an 'obvious' fit.

My main beef is immigration and its impact on the working poor. In one of those articles (that she cited), said that a small portion of the country, is indeed, affect by illegals competing for those jobs. The illegals hurt recent legal immigrants and those that are high school dropouts. It affected some small percentage, less then 3%.

The poor family in that SUV could not afford housing because other people (without children) bumped them off the list.

Obviously, this family need to go where the entry level, low skilled jobs are. And undocumented people have assisted in crowding them out..

Plus, gangs were patrolling the neighborhoods where they wanted to park their van. Lawless is lawless, border crosser's get hungry, can't get jobs, the young get more lawless.

One poster said that the total crime rate in the country is going down. OK, maybe the total. But, every large city is a battle zone. We have murders and shootings every day, multiple on weekends, much of it gang related, drug related.

Plus, convicted offenders cannot easily get jobs. Those than can get jobs are in construction, in landscaping, in labor pools.
The same jobs illegals bid for.

Data? Go to Home Depot anywhere in the US and see who is buying construction materials. See who are running lawn mowers, and leaf blowers, and manning rakes. I seem to live in Home Depot and Lumber Yards. I see what I see.

My point? We may or may not need any more entry level workers. If we do, we need to pre-screen them, make sure they are legal citizens, paying taxes, and that they are honest. Being here illegally, oops, not honest.

I know, GA references show that many pay taxes. But, many overextend the local governments who are not reimbursed by their counties or state. It IS a problem.


The main thrust of this thread, is why was this poor family living in their SUV?

For a damn year.

And, with at least one of the parents being a citizen, maybe both.

This theme got spread all over the California fault lines. Especially the San Andreas Fault.
Yep, close to Salinas. I am guessing, nope did not fact check that.

Yes, I am guilty of this.....rambling, and yawing, this spreading, philosophic rhetoric.

My eyes see what is evident. We have huge problems with the poor. Illegals are not helping this problem.

I will leave it at that.

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My point was that they came from Asia. I proved that the earliest did come from Asia. Whether more migrated or they had enough offspring to expand and explore into the interior and find a warmer climate doesn't matter that much. They said they were the first here. They were not indigenous.

Indigenous is defined as “originating or occurring naturally in a particular place.” Indigenous can be used to define species of plants and animals that originated in a particular place. It is also used more broadly to refer to native people, those who were here first.


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Indigenous is defined as “originating or occurring naturally in a particular place.” Indigenous can be used to define species of plants and animals that originated in a particular place. It is also used more broadly to refer to native people, those who were here first.


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Plants are not relevant.

No human beings yet to be found originated in North America. Everyone migrated here. Those first Americans warred between each other as a matter of life. They are no different from the Europeans warring with Muslims in the Crusades, or the Romans warring with the Gallic tribes. Your point is understandable from the position of pity. I doubt they want pity and patronization.

They would still have contracted diseases they had no immunity to fight. Sure, it's sad, but at some point, we have to live in today.

They could not have run the country. They could not have kept this land in their possession, even if the Spanish and English had never come. Someone else would have and they would still have been living in the stone age, using flint tipped bows and flint knives. Using bone or antler for sewing leather together with sinew. There is just no way around reality.

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Be specific on what data that you support and I appear, not to.

As mentioned, much of what she presented is acceptable to me. But she extrapolates that data to things that are not an 'obvious' fit.

My main beef is immigration and its impact on the working poor. In one of those articles (that she cited), said that a small portion of the country, is indeed, affect by illegals competing for those jobs. The illegals hurt recent legal immigrants and those that are high school dropouts. It affected some small percentage, less then 3%.

The poor family in that SUV could not afford housing because other people (without children) bumped them off the list.

Obviously, this family need to go where the entry level, low skilled jobs are. And undocumented people have assisted in crowding them out..

Plus, gangs were patrolling the neighborhoods where they wanted to park their van. Lawless is lawless, border crosser's get hungry, can't get jobs, the young get more lawless.

One poster said that the total crime rate in the country is going down. OK, maybe the total. But, every large city is a battle zone. We have murders and shootings every day, multiple on weekends, much of it gang related, drug related.

Plus, convicted offenders cannot easily get jobs. Those than can get jobs are in construction, in landscaping, in labor pools.
The same jobs illegals bid for.

Data? Go to Home Depot anywhere in the US and see who is buying construction materials. See who are running lawn mowers, and leaf blowers, and manning rakes. I seem to live in Home Depot and Lumber Yards. I see what I see.

My point? We may or may not need any more entry level workers. If we do, we need to pre-screen them, make sure they are legal citizens, paying taxes, and that they are honest. Being here illegally, oops, not honest.

I know, GA references show that many pay taxes. But, many overextend the local governments who are not reimbursed by their counties or state. It IS a problem.


The main thrust of this thread, is why was this poor family living in their SUV?

For a damn year.

And, with at least one of the parents being a citizen, maybe both.

This theme got spread all over the California fault lines. Especially the San Andreas Fault.
Yep, close to Salinas. I am guessing, nope did not fact check that.

Yes, I am guilty of this.....rambling, and yawing, this spreading, philosophic rhetoric.

My eyes see what is evident. We have huge problems with the poor. Illegals are not helping this problem.

I will leave it at that.

Tank wu!


I am curious though (since you suggested I move to find a job).. why didn’t/doesn’t this poor family living in their car just move to a more affordable state? $2600 for rent sounds absurd to me.. lol, they could come out East and get them a double wide for $1000 or less a month, or a single wide for $500. But seriously they’re trying to live in one of the most expensive states, why? Just thinking out loud.


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Plants are not relevant.

No human beings yet to be found originated in North America. Everyone migrated here. Those first Americans warred between each other as a matter of life. They are no different from the Europeans warring with Muslims in the Crusades, or the Romans warring with the Gallic tribes. Your point is understandable from the position of pity. I doubt they want pity and patronization.

They would still have contracted diseases they had no immunity to fight. Sure, it's sad, but at some point, we have to live in today.

They could not have run the country. They could not have kept this land in their possession, even if the Spanish and English had never come. Someone else would have and they would still have been living in the stone age, using flint tipped bows and flint knives. Using bone or antler for sewing leather together with sinew. There is just no way around reality.


I think your assertion is a bit arrogant, considering none of us were here to see how the first Native Americans were living. It may not have been to what your standards are, or the first settlers standards were, but it was their way of life. And who the hell knows, perhaps they enjoyed living a more simpler life, enjoying nature and the beautiful land that surrounded them.

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“Some of the Native American reservations such as the Ute tribe contain natural resources such as timber, oil, and gas. American Indian territories in the West house gold and have had previous clashes with gold miners. These areas have been exploited for its natural resources for economic reasons and have threatened the area with climate change. Efforts have been made by the communities to safeguard natural resources and protect the environment.”




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I think your assertion is a bit arrogant, considering none of us were here to see how the first Native Americans were living. It may not have been to what your standards are, or the first settlers standards were, but it was their way of life. And who the hell knows, perhaps they enjoyed living a more simpler life, enjoying nature and the beautiful land that surrounded them.

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“Some of the Native American reservations such as the Ute tribe contain natural resources such as timber, oil, and gas. American Indian territories in the West house gold and have had previous clashes with gold miners. These areas have been exploited for its natural resources for economic reasons and have threatened the area with climate change. Efforts have been made by the communities to safeguard natural resources and protect the environment.”




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