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Adding States to the Union

Harvard Law School is the place where our government officials go when they don't understand what to do or how. In essence, these are the folks running the country, not the elected officials. In this edition of the "Harvard Law Review", we see a proposal to ensure that every vote counts. It is, according to them a Constitutional way of making our elections better, using my own words.

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To create a system where every vote counts equally, the Constitution must be amended. To do this, Congress should pass legislation reducing the size of Washington, D.C., to an area encompassing only a few core federal buildings and then admit the rest of the Districtís 127 neighborhoods15

15. See Jennifer Comey et al., Urban Inst., State of Washington, D.C.ís Neighborhoods 3 (2010) (identifying 127 neighborhoods).
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as states. These states ó which could be added with a simple congressional majority ó would add enough votes in Congress to ratify four amendments: (1) a transfer of the Senateís power to a body that represents citizens equally; (2) an expansion of the House so that all citizens are represented in equal-sized districts; (3) a replacement of the Electoral College with a popular vote; and (4) a modification of the Constitutionís amendment process that would ensure future amendments are ratified by states representing most Americans.
https://harvardlawreview.org/2020/01...epresentation/

My opinion is, we cannot do away with the Electoral College.

What are your thoughts on this article or anything I mentioned?

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Harvard Law School is the place where our government officials go when they don't understand what to do or how. In essence, these are the folks running the country, not the elected officials. In this edition of the "Harvard Law Review", we see a proposal to ensure that every vote counts. It is, according to them a Constitutional way of making our elections better, using my own words.



https://harvardlawreview.org/2020/01...epresentation/



My opinion is, we cannot do away with the Electoral College.



What are your thoughts on this article or anything I mentioned?


You are right we cannot just do away with the electoral college since it is constitutional. So, the opinion by the Harvard law review is just that, an opinion.

The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. This is the opposite of low hanging fruit.




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You are right we cannot just do away with the electoral college since it is constitutional. So, the opinion by the Harvard law review is just that, an opinion.

The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. This is the opposite of low hanging fruit.




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Read the whole thing when you get a chance. It's well thought out, though I can see issues with it in many places, just as the one you have mentioned. I don't know who wrote this. I was just looking and didn't see it. I'll just use the impersonal, they. They seem to have a work around for the issue you give in your post.

There are many issues they bring up and many issues to consider. I don't say the troubles they see that have been represented in the article are necessarily wrong. I see other issues within their proposals.
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You mean like Alan Dershowitz who will be representing Trump in the impeachment.
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or Steve Bannon for that matter.
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save time and effort making new flags. gerrymander the state borders into 50 areas equal in voting population. redo every census election the year after one ten year term for everyone except the speaker of the house who is elected for life.
Release the flyover states from tyranny and divide DC, Chicago and NYC to make up the missing stars.
Only allow voting in cities larger than 1000000
Abolish the constitution and appoint a dictator, let each star stand for the members of the court.
if you think they hate the senate this week, give it another week.
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Harvard Law School is the place where our government officials go when they don't understand what to do or how. In essence, these are the folks running the country, not the elected officials. In this edition of the "Harvard Law Review", we see a proposal to ensure that every vote counts. It is, according to them a Constitutional way of making our elections better, using my own words.

https://harvardlawreview.org/2020/01...epresentation/

My opinion is, we cannot do away with the Electoral College.

What are your thoughts on this article or anything I mentioned?
That is one of the most insane ideas I have ever heard of, and I'm no stranger to insane ideas.
Of course it is from Harvard Law School, so not too surprising.

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You mean like Alan Dershowitz who will be representing Trump in the impeachment.
Dershowitz is hired as a defense attorney. Are you saying he is the same as someone writing bills?

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or Steve Bannon for that matter.
No, these are different since they are holding a position within government. If I'm not mistaken, those who help the HoRs are able to be and sometimes are influenced by donations from corporations and special interest groups.


Did you even read the paper? I did. It's pretty unnerving. However, it's the far left agenda.
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That is one of the most insane ideas I have ever heard of, and I'm no stranger to insane ideas.
Of course it is from Harvard Law School, so not too surprising.
They want to make changes and then stop anyone else from being able to reverse or continue changes, for one thing. there is so much in there, it's nearly impossible to address it all. It's not well thought out, though. Much of it is based on the idea that we live in a democracy, when we really don't and never have.
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save time and effort making new flags. gerrymander the state borders into 50 areas equal in voting population. redo every census election the year after one ten year term for everyone except the speaker of the house who is elected for life.
Release the flyover states from tyranny and divide DC, Chicago and NYC to make up the missing stars.
Only allow voting in cities larger than 1000000
Abolish the constitution and appoint a dictator, let each star stand for the members of the court.
if you think they hate the senate this week, give it another week.
Thanks for reading it. It was long. It's what the far left wants. Some of them, anyway. Why don't they just find a good candidate? They want change now, not slow change. That's why.

Also, no good man or woman will run for office. It's too corrupt. You have to play the game. If this goes through at some time, I don't know what will happen. It's pretty frightening.

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