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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old 11-23-2018, 04:26 PM Thread Starter
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Well, it is Friday afternoon, and I have closed the office for the weekend. I have also just picked up my first legal purchase of marijuana from the post office. We had Cannabis become legal for recreational purposes on October 17. The government of my province is selling direct until bricks and mortar stores open on April 1. Some highlights: It's taxed. We use "sin" taxes to pay for hospitals and schools. Even with the tax, it worked out about $30 less per ounce than the stuff I was buying at the quasi-legal dispensaries. Best is that there is an analysis of what you have purchased, percentages of THC and CBD. (One of my clients and a dear friend developed Parkinsons Disease in the last two years. He did not react well to the medications prescribed. They had little to no effect. We visited the dispensary that I frequented, and he purchased a quarter ounce of a CBD strain. Two deep puffs and his voice returned. Four more, and he did not have a tremor. CBD strains will not get you high, but it made his wife break down in tears, like the disease was wiped away.-he bought a pocket vaporizer, and he takes a few puffs every few hours. He stopped the meds altogether)

Plus, our government is apparently expunging the records of those convicted of simple possession. Happy to say, I am Canadian.


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Well, it is Friday afternoon, and I have closed the office for the weekend. I have also just picked up my first legal purchase of marijuana from the post office. We had Cannabis become legal for recreational purposes on October 17. The government of my province is selling direct until bricks and mortar stores open on April 1. Some highlights: It's taxed. We use "sin" taxes to pay for hospitals and schools. Even with the tax, it worked out about $30 less per ounce than the stuff I was buying at the quasi-legal dispensaries. Best is that there is an analysis of what you have purchased, percentages of THC and CBD. (One of my clients and a dear friend developed Parkinsons Disease in the last two years. He did not react well to the medications prescribed. They had little to no effect. We visited the dispensary that I frequented, and he purchased a quarter ounce of a CBD strain. Two deep puffs and his voice returned. Four more, and he did not have a tremor. CBD strains will not get you high, but it made his wife break down in tears, like the disease was wiped away.-he bought a pocket vaporizer, and he takes a few puffs every few hours. He stopped the meds altogether)

Plus, our government is apparently expunging the records of those convicted of simple possession. Happy to say, I am Canadian.
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Maybe someone ought to open a Total Weed and More up there.
I’ll stick to bourbon though. Yum.
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Hey @Taxman, where did you order your from? I'm also Canadian, and was thinking about trying some THC/CBD drops, but am unsure where to order it from.
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I hope you do a better job making good use of those taxes than we are.

In Colorado, the lion's share of the revenues go to public schools. Even though we're a few years into this thing, the schools haven't gotten any better and my property taxes (the primary source of school revenue) continue to go up.

I see part of the problem... it looks like most of the school money went into grants for school health professionals and programs for dropout and bullying prevention. In other words, nothing that directly contributes to learning math, science, or history. So, as was perfectly predictable, this wasn't a way to offset existing expenses, but rather a way to simply add overhead.

Oh, yeah, and a few million went to the state Department of Agriculture, to fund hemp regulation and seed certification. So we're using funds from regulating one thing to pay for regulating another thing. The whole thing put together is the proverbial self licking ice cream cone.

So now we get to smell the stench of weed everywhere we go, and get no tangible benefit in return. Nice.
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But you get good at telling the good weed from the bad weed
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My wife orders hers as well. She likes the edibles.
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In the UK its still illegal and I hope it stays that way.

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It’s all good, but you still have to punt on third down, eh!




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We legalized for recreational Nov 6. Unfortunately, we have to wait for the election results to be certified and then, 10 days later, it will be legal. Since the election results typically get certified at the end of the month we're thinking around the 1st or 2nd week of December.

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Such topics are why it's hard to get out in public.
Don't get me wrong. We don't use it, but I am not against it. And am glad those who need it there can access it.
Legalize? Not legalize? As I told one who was all for it. Those shouldn't even be topics of discussion. Even talking about it in such a context shows one is in a controlled paradigm.

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Well, it is Friday afternoon, and I have closed the office for the weekend. I have also just picked up my first legal purchase of marijuana from the post office. We had Cannabis become legal for recreational purposes on October 17. The government of my province is selling direct until bricks and mortar stores open on April 1. Some highlights: It's taxed. We use "sin" taxes to pay for hospitals and schools. Even with the tax, it worked out about $30 less per ounce than the stuff I was buying at the quasi-legal dispensaries. Best is that there is an analysis of what you have purchased, percentages of THC and CBD. (One of my clients and a dear friend developed Parkinsons Disease in the last two years. He did not react well to the medications prescribed. They had little to no effect. We visited the dispensary that I frequented, and he purchased a quarter ounce of a CBD strain. Two deep puffs and his voice returned. Four more, and he did not have a tremor. CBD strains will not get you high, but it made his wife break down in tears, like the disease was wiped away.-he bought a pocket vaporizer, and he takes a few puffs every few hours. He stopped the meds altogether)

Plus, our government is apparently expunging the records of those convicted of simple possession. Happy to say, I am Canadian.
I've never used MJ, but this is a good thing, especially considering the oft-observed therapeutic benefits. My wife has MS, and if her condition ever progresses to the point that using MJ would be of benefit to her, and it's NOT legal where we live, we'll move to wherever it is legal. (Yes... even if I have to give up my guns. ) She recently started using a THC-free CBD oil to help with some minor symptoms, and it works pretty well.

Plus the libertarian in me just isn't a fan of anyone telling me, you, or anyone what we can or can't ingest, imbibe, or inhale.

P.S. I'm also Canadian!

Well... kind of.

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Almost by definition, money is maximally fungible - it can be used for anything, you can't track which dollars when where in any meaningful sense.

A new tax can be sent to a specific use - but nothing prevents other taxes from being removed from that same use.

So, when you legalize and tax, there is more total tax money to spend. Whether or not that money is spent wisely, is a different question.

Leagalization also presumably decreases prison costs in the long term.

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I hope you do a better job making good use of those taxes than we are.

In Colorado, the lion's share of the revenues go to public schools. Even though we're a few years into this thing, the schools haven't gotten any better and my property taxes (the primary source of school revenue) continue to go up.

I see part of the problem... it looks like most of the school money went into grants for school health professionals and programs for dropout and bullying prevention. In other words, nothing that directly contributes to learning math, science, or history. So, as was perfectly predictable, this wasn't a way to offset existing expenses, but rather a way to simply add overhead.

Oh, yeah, and a few million went to the state Department of Agriculture, to fund hemp regulation and seed certification. So we're using funds from regulating one thing to pay for regulating another thing. The whole thing put together is the proverbial self licking ice cream cone.

So now we get to smell the stench of weed everywhere we go, and get no tangible benefit in return. Nice.
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