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Re: Controversial Topic: Women's Satisfaction

We all can agree what average is.

Average is some mean size, no, no, not a mean thing, well, maybe some may seem that way when you are at the receiving end. I am not that person. Lilith has been there.

It is just an averaging of the numbers in a chosen pool. And some, not in the swimming, or wading pool, some in an office that measured the dang things.

Some of those averaged quoted their numbers. These are always suspect, trending towards an over arching value, uh, them laying it out and lying higher.

Um..

Average is a single value that represents a number of unequal values, in a set of values. It is a generalized value.

So, this is the value that women, 'in general', must deal with.

If they show displeasure with the average than they set themselves up for 'likely' unhappiness in any sexual relationship.

Ladies make do, as do the men who are average.

Until medical surgery makes those 'long' awaited advances, everyone, male and female, will just have to get by with what is normally available.

That, by the way, has worked OK for tens of thousands of years.

And for my 800+ years.


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Have you ever seen a woman give birth?
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And somehow those women usually go on to have good sex with partners that canít compete with an 8lb human being.
mmm... Not so much. Been there and done that.

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And somehow those women usually go on to have good sex with partners that can’t compete with an 8lb human being.
mmm... Not so much. Been there and done that.
It’s true that some women do not go completely back to their pre birth size down there. In fact, in the past, women would tear and when there was no way to stitch them up, they could remain torn wide open for life. This is one reason why childbirth is so dangerous that without modern medicine, many of them would die from it. So many things can go wrong.

In modern times even if you do not tear or you are able to be sewn up properly, a woman still may be a bit slack down there. If she doesn’t get her muscle tone back, she can end up in a much different state than she was before childbirth.

So this is why kegels are recommended before and after childbirth, and frankly all women should do them all their life. If they don’t there is a definite difference down there.
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As to the actual question, I would have to guess it is similar to having sex with a woman who is very tight for awhile and then having a later lover who is not so snug. I don’t know but I’m guessing this does feel different to men? Is the tighter one so much better that you can never have good sex with the less tight one?

A vag is a magical organ that can either accommodate something huge or squeeze down on something less huge. But only if she has that muscle tone. Most women have this naturally before childbirth but not after.
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As for my actual experience, let’s just say I have a lot of muscle tone down there and frankly, everything feels huge to me. I know I talk a lot about my love of peens and I kid you guys a lot about HUGE ones. But the reality is that my body handles each one with the most loving tight hugs and my she never has any complaints as long as he’s rocking me in the way I like to be rocked.
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Honesty can be honestly painful.

One can deal more easily with tight facts, than wishes, later found slack.

Slack, still has measurable substance and any lack can be man-aged with due flair.

A tight mind is more satisfying than any slack tail.

It takes more than mere friction to hold a good man or a good lady.

It is the strokes, both to the Ego and to the [ergo below] that feel good, not the rubbing and chafing of two competing wills.

Seek the lover who practices that bumping and the caressing, not the heating and rapid speed boxer.

We are what we are, shame should not be any party.

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Itís true that some women do not go completely back to their pre birth size down there. In fact, in the past, women would tear and when there was no way to stitch them up, they could remain torn wide open for life. This is one reason why childbirth is so dangerous that without modern medicine, many of them would die from it. So many things can go wrong.

In modern times even if you do not tear or you are able to be sewn up properly, a woman still may be a bit slack down there. If she doesnít get her muscle tone back, she can end up in a much different state than she was before childbirth.

So this is why kegels are recommended before and after childbirth, and frankly all women should do them all their life. If they donít there is a definite difference down there.
I only know there is a difference. Kegels are not going to turn that around. I have some real life experience with that. What kegels do is strengthen the muscles that push out a baby. They don't really tighten anything back to the way it was.

I don't like talking about this part. I don't feel right saying these things. They are hurtful, even if true.

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It’s true that some women do not go completely back to their pre birth size down there. In fact, in the past, women would tear and when there was no way to stitch them up, they could remain torn wide open for life. This is one reason why childbirth is so dangerous that without modern medicine, many of them would die from it. So many things can go wrong.

In modern times even if you do not tear or you are able to be sewn up properly, a woman still may be a bit slack down there. If she doesn’t get her muscle tone back, she can end up in a much different state than she was before childbirth.

So this is why kegels are recommended before and after childbirth, and frankly all women should do them all their life. If they don’t there is a definite difference down there.
I only know there is a difference. Kegels are not going to turn that around. I have some real life experience with that. What kegels do is strengthen the muscles that push out a baby. They don't really tighten anything back to the way it was.

I don't like talking about this part. I don't feel right saying these things. They are hurtful, even if true.
It’s not hurtful, it’s just been your experience. You haven’t experienced all women so rest assured, while what you have experienced is true, there are other women for which it is not true. You are misinformed about kegels. And I’m not sure how you could know or not if any woman you have been with was doing them regularly and correctly.

So while you may think you know what a prior lover was doing with her hoo-ha, there’s really no way you or anyone else could ever know for sure.

The other thing is that some women do go through more changes during to their body down there than others during pregnancy and labor. We are built a lot different.

What I’m getting at is that you could potentially meet a woman who has had children but who has a snatch small and tight enough to break a pencil. You are free not to believe this based on your experience but you would be wrong.

If you are more worried about her being stretched out by a huge peen, then you are still a little behind on how a vag works.
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As for my actual experience, letís just say I have a lot of muscle tone down there and frankly, everything feels huge to me. I know I talk a lot about my love of peens and I kid you guys a lot about HUGE ones. But the reality is that my body handles each one with the most loving tight hugs and my she never has any complaints as long as heís rocking me in the way I like to be rocked.
The question is, how can a woman feel filled after she has had a large man? Kegels must be used by a woman during sex. Early on, a young woman doesn't generally know how to use them, but the natural body function of 'hugging' takes over and she feels fuller. After a large man and the amount of time it takes for her to accommodate his size, the vagina will not likely go back to what it was. Kegels take over, but that means she has to concentrate on her muscles rather than letting her body do what comes natural, or she won't feel filled.

The proof is in your post. You take care of him. I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that you are consciously doing something to make sex better for him. I'm sure it's much appreciated. It isn't the same, though.

So, why would a woman want an average man after having a larger man? I don't know. It doesn't make any sense.


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The question is, how can a woman feel filled after she has had a large man? Kegels must be used by a woman during sex. Early on, a young woman doesn't generally know how to use them, but the natural body function of 'hugging' takes over and she feels fuller. After a large man and the amount of time it takes for her to accommodate his size, the vagina will not likely go back to what it was. Kegels take over, but that means she has to concentrate on her muscles rather than letting her body do what comes natural, or she won't feel filled.

The proof is in your post. You take care of him. I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that you are consciously doing something to make sex better for him. I'm sure it's much appreciated. It isn't the same, though.

So, why would a woman want an average man after having a larger man? I don't know. It doesn't make any sense.
You see, she can't have as good sex if she has to think about it that much, rather than just feeling it and staying in her mental sexual state. Whatever that is in her mind. Women's biggest sexual organ is their brain. So, if she has to use her brain to think of pleasing him by using kegels, she isn't using her brain as a sex organ for an orgasm.

I hope I am starting to make some sense.

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I've seen more births than I can remember. The vagina is elastic, it stretches (a lot!) to accommodate a baby, yes. Does it go all the way back to what it was before? No...but...we're talking about another human being, not a big ****. Even the biggest **** known to mankind can't compete with what happens during a birth.

I had an almost 10lb baby. I also had a baby who, due to her position, was like delivering an 11lb baby. You don't want to know what I went through to push that child into this world. After I healed, I felt no difference in my enjoyment of intercourse and neither did my partner.

Regardless of that, the fact is that a big **** will stretch the vagina during intercourse and then between uses it will go back to it's original shape and size. After a while, the woman won't feel that stretch anymore similar to how on day one of your brand new exercise routine it hurts like a mother but day 30 doesn't hurt anymore. The tissues "remember" and so it doesn't hurt anymore. But the vagina will be the same size. Even an anaconda is not big enough to cause a noticeable difference in the tightness of a vagina.

What can cause a difference is age, hormones, etc. And I agree with FW...do your kegals women...it helps...and if you do them during sex, all the better...or so I've been told
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Itís not hurtful, itís just been your experience. You havenít experienced all women so rest assured, while what you have experienced is true, there are other women for which it is not true. You are misinformed about kegels. And Iím not sure how you could know or not if any woman you have been with was doing them regularly and correctly.

So while you may think you know what a prior lover was doing with her hoo-ha, thereís really no way you or anyone else could ever know for sure.

The other thing is that some women do go through more changes during to their body down there than others during pregnancy and labor. We are built a lot different.

What Iím getting at is that you could potentially meet a woman who has had children but who has a snatch small and tight enough to break a pencil. You are free not to believe this based on your experience but you would be wrong.

If you are more worried about her being stretched out by a huge peen, then you are still a little behind on how a vag works.
No, I understand the rhetoric about stretching it out and it springs back. Thing is, that's not completely true. We've already discussed that with babies above.

No, I know that a woman's kegels are strong and I know when she is using them. I had that experience with my second wife. I asked her to squeeze me. I know what it feels like and when she was doing it. She even straightened me out once. lol I'd never have believed it could happen, but she did. So, I get it. Believe me. I do.

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As for my actual experience, let’s just say I have a lot of muscle tone down there and frankly, everything feels huge to me. I know I talk a lot about my love of peens and I kid you guys a lot about HUGE ones. But the reality is that my body handles each one with the most loving tight hugs and my she never has any complaints as long as he’s rocking me in the way I like to be rocked.
The question is, how can a woman feel filled after she has had a large man? Kegels must be used by a woman during sex. Early on, a young woman doesn't generally know how to use them, but the natural body function of 'hugging' takes over and she feels fuller. After a large man and the amount of time it takes for her to accommodate his size, the vagina will not likely go back to what it was. Kegels take over, but that means she has to concentrate on her muscles rather than letting her body do what comes natural, or she won't feel filled.

The proof is in your post. You take care of him. I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that you are consciously doing something to make sex better for him. I'm sure it's much appreciated. It isn't the same, though.

So, why would a woman want an average man after having a larger man? I don't know. It doesn't make any sense.
No, you have read me wrong. My kitty hugs the puppy without me having to consciously think about it. This is because I’ve done kegels all my life in a regular setting. Not during sex. I can squeeze down on purpose during sex if I want but it’s not what I was talking about. I could never concentrate that hard during sex to be squeezing all the time (kegels actually require a lot of focus). I actually have to relax a bit so that it doesn’t hurt me at first and I’m talking about with any size, not a huge one. It takes a few minutes for me to accommodate even a very average size. This is part of why I love sex so much. It’s an adventure every time.

Now I’m not saying this is true for women who don’t do their kegels. I actually would have to hear from you guys what the difference is to how it feels to you. I don’t talk to my friends about how tight they are or if they do their kegels.

As for the worry about having a huge one and then a not so huge one and how can it feel as good? I’ve already answered that. It has to do with skill. But again I can’t speak for women who don’t have as much muscle tone as I have or their experience.

But are you saying that when you start dating someone you are going to question them about the size of previous partners or what? Because wow, I would flee the scene if any guy asked about that.
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No, you have read me wrong. My kitty hugs the puppy without me having to consciously think about it. This is because Iíve done kegels all my life in a regular setting. Not during sex. I can squeeze down on purpose during sex if I want but itís not what I was talking about. I could never concentrate that hard during sex to be squeezing all the time (kegels actually require a lot of focus). I actually have to relax a bit so that it doesnít hurt me at first and Iím talking about with any size, not a huge one. It takes a few minutes for me to accommodate even a very average size. This is part of why I love sex so much. Itís an adventure every time.

Now Iím not saying this is true for women who donít do their kegels. I actually would have to hear from you guys what the difference is to how it feels to you. I donít talk to my friends about how tight they are or if they do their kegels.

As for the worry about having a huge one and then a not so huge one and how can it feel as good? Iíve already answered that. It has to do with skill. But again I canít speak for women who donít have as much muscle tone as I have or their experience.

But are you saying that when you start dating someone you are going to question them about the size of previous partners or what? Because wow, I would flee the scene if any guy asked about that.
I understand you are speaking for yourself. All women are the same as all men, but all women are different. lol teasing

If your first paragraph is true, why is it women have said a man was too small? They aren't toned and they don't want to take the blame? See, what I get out of it is, there is a difference. The woman has to work on herself to be able to feel satisfaction from an average penis, after she's had a larger man.

I don't know where you answered the skill part? Please get into detail.

No, I'm saying I won't date unless I understand these things. I have already, but nothing happened. It's probably due to this stuff as well as many other things. Just wanted to try to help myself a little. Either way, I'm going to talk with my counselor about it, so no issues. Just wanted to try.

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